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[edit] Plot

Somethings wrong with an article about a visual novel if the Plot section is down 3/4th's of the page from the top. Isn't this the most important subject? (considering game+manga+anime) I don't know enough about this series or Wikipedia's standard on visual novels to edit the page myself. --70.142.38.123 10:56, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

This style of formatting a video game was patterned off of the featured article FFVII, though as far as a standard for visual novel articles go, I don't think there is one; there are a multitude of GA visual novel articles though which can be used as examples, this one included.-- 11:13, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
I think the article follows a nice, chronological sequence of "how it came to be", "what it is", "what its legacy is" that makes sense. --SeizureDog 05:46, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Original game cover

I changed the original game cover image to the limited edition version featuring only Ayu since that was the real original game cover.-- 04:05, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good article reappraisal

As part of WikiProject Good Articles GA sweeps, I am re-reviewing old GAs to see if they still meet criteria. This article is very good overall, but I see one critical issue, in that things like gameplay and a vast majority of the content is cited just to the game. That kind of use of a primary source is just wrong, and supporting citations for pretty much everything save the plot should be introduced or adapted. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 01:43, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

It's by no means a "vast majority". The only places that use the primary cite of the game itself are the gameplay, setting and themes, and character sections (and then once in development). The reason this is so is because citing information on the game's gameplay has proven difficult, and besides, it's not like using the game as a cite hasn't been used in FA articles (which uses some of the game's direct quotes). Outside of the game, there's an official fan book I could cite, but beyond that there is little else to nothing. Not to mention that the majority of the content in the article is supported by other citations.-- 04:04, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I attempted to replace all the things I cited with the game cite.-- 19:26, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Assuming the book you mentioned is official, as a secondary source it would be infinitely better as a source than using primary materials. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 19:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it's official; see its page at Amazon. I have the book itself too.-- 19:53, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
If you can cite as much as you can to that, then, it would be great. Official books are much better than the primary source because it reduces a lot of guesswork and potential for WP:OR issues. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 20:08, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
I believe I have cited as much as is needed to that book. Everything else is supported by other cites.-- 21:23, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Ok, it looks much better. Thanks for the prompt replies. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 23:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

So, is that it, or are you going to go through with a formal GAR?-- 01:43, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Proof that the reviewer passed this article's Good Article Reassessment here.-- 22:40, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

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