Talk:Karaims

OK ?--BIR 14:38, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Not quite correct...

It's somehow incorrect to merge the Karaims page to the Karaite judaism as long as there is a Karaims community in the East Europe believing they are derived from the Turkic Khazars.

They should be named as they wish, the Karaims, and the rest of them should be named, those who hold a belief in their Jewish origin, as the Karaites.

In addition, presently the remained Karaims and the Lithuanian muslim Tatars of the Nogay origin hold together even buring their dead ones in the same cemeteries.

The first ones have spoken 'karaylarin kendi tatarca gibi dil' while the Tatars have kept Muslim belief while they have given up their original 'Nogay tatarcasi' for a long time ago, and adapted to local languages.

On the other hand, I doubt if the mainstream Jews recognise the Karaims as the keepers of the original belief as those wish.

So, in this regards there might be schisms underway in the both spheres, within the Karaims/Karaites and between them and the 'rabbanite' jews.

But I don't quite know how the things develop further on.

Maybe the Karaims and Jews themselves ought to commenent on this matter.--BIR 06:22, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Shalom Y'all, I do think this page should be redirected to the Karaite Judaism page. The subject of the surviving Eastern European Karaims is an intersting one.

As we know, during the inquisition, it was not unheard of for Jews to deny they were such. This is what happened in pre-Communist Russia, they were external rumors which succesfully lifted most of the anti-semetic laws in effect at that time. Unfortunately, when religion was banned by communism these rumors were taught as truth to many of the karaims, however many retained knoweledge of their Jewishness. If the belief of some of the European Karaims is the objection to the merge, I hope what I wrote will satisfy that objection. I will make some changes to the Karaite Judaism page after Shabbat, and if the changes satisfy everyone I will then have this page redirect to Karaite Judaism.--Josiah 00:45, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

As long as they're NPOV and attributed. Jayjg 04:07, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)