Talk:Kowloon Peninsula

Doesn't correspond

This does not quite correspond with the Hong Kong article:

the Kowloon peninsula, also containing the New Territories.

Patrick 10:03 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I have updated the Hong Kong article. olivier 10:19 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)

But then in the New Territories article:

The New Territories... comprising the northern part of the Kowloon peninsula...

--Lorenzarius 10:26 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Let us talk about it in Talk:Kowloon. olivier 11:14 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)

and discussion below Earthlyreason (talk)

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I do not see why Kowloon Bay is an irrelevant piece of information. I have reverted the deletion. olivier 10:56, Feb 25, 2004 (UTC)

Definition of Kowloon peninsula

Surely 'Kowloon peninsula' or 'Kowloon Peninsula' is a geographical term. But the main definition in this article (somewhat implied) is that 'Kowloon Peninsular' is only south of Boundary St. This is a political/administrative division and surely wrong. And we don't show any specific reference to support it.

I agree with Britannica that the term (with capital or lowercase 'p') can be either a) the land south of Lion Rock etc, or the whole of mainland Hong Kong (ie all except islands, and including all New Territories).

Any objections if I align our definition with Britannica?
Earthlyreason (talk) 06:33, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

I am not sure what you mean by kowloon peninsula = mainland HK? This is a small geographical term. Benjwong (talk) 20:38, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

It means that part of Hong Kong that is on the Eurasian land mass - everything except the islands.
Earthlyreason (talk) 17:48, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

The definitions of Kowloon and Kowloon Peninsula are not clear cut. Both can be used to refer to the piece of land south of Boundary Street, or all of the land south of the Lion Rock etc.

The former is used in political, legal and historical contexts to refer to the area south of Boundary Street. In daily lives, nevertheless, it's become a term meaning Kowloon and New Kowloon combined.

The latter, i.e. Kowloon Peninsula, is more geographical... but it really depends on how you look at the maps. The piece of land south of Boundary Street appear as a triangle. But there is no geographical feature apart from the street. Lion Rock, etc., are the actual geographical feature that mark Kowloon apart from the rest of the mainland part of the territory of Hong Kong. Montemonte (talk) 21:26, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Are you, Montemonte, rejecting that the term can mean all of mainland Hong Kong? It does seem to be used that way. Earthlyreason (talk) 13:37, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

It contemporarily don't mean all of mainland Hong Kong. Not too sure in historical records prior to British rule. Montemonte (talk) 19:45, 15 August 2009 (UTC)