Talk:Lexus LS

Five-passenger cabin

Text states "The five-passenger cabin also featured a walnut and leather-trimmed interior, power-adjustable memory seats," - but isn't this really a 4 seater? the rear bench is distinctly 2+2.

I assume USA UCF20 II (1998)model did not have optional Dynamic Handling Pack , which was offered on UK models?

Also isn't this the first car to be laser welded?

tali -04/06/08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.44.180 (talk) 23:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Noteable UK owners

Comedian Norman Pace LS400 (UCF20)

Footballer John Barnes LS400 (UCF10)

Comedian jeremy Beadle LS400

Footballer Geoff Hurst LS460SE-L with personal plate 66GH

Golfer Colin Montgomery LS430

tali -05/06/08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.44.180 (talk) 00:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Pop culture

These references were taken out for now, they need reliable references and clear significance to the vehicle:

• A Lexus LS 430 is driven by Hector Salazar and Wayne Palmer in season 3 of 24 and by Phillip Bauer in season 6.

• In early episodes of The Sopranos, Christopher Moltisanti drives a Lexus LS 400, which in the very first episode is used by Tony Soprano to run down a man who owes him money.

• In season 4 of Entourage, Ari Gold drives a Lexus LS 600h L, and gets stopped by police for speeding.

• The Lexus LS 600h L is featured in the video game Test Drive Unlimited.

• James May bought a LS 400 to convert into a police car in season 11 of Top Gear.

Not sure where to put this: "an advertising tie-in with Sega produced discs with detailed 3d models and video using Dreamcast consoles." Regards, SynergyStar (talk)

Good article status

I noticed that this article is a former good article. In its current state, I would probably rate it GA (from a cursory read). Maybe one of the major editors would be interested in nominating this article if they feel it is up to it. OSX (talk • contributions) 07:17, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion, I will be giving the article some touch-ups and probably nominate it soon. Regards, SynergyStar (talk) 19:56, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I will be reviewing the article in the coming days, but be prepared, I do have a few suggestions despite my contrary statement above (I believe the article is good, but needs a few small changes first). OSX (talk • contributions) 01:31, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I anticipate that the article will benefit from the suggestions of a fresh pair of eyes. Looking forward to your input. Regards SynergyStar (talk) 03:15, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Review

• Lead: remove all referencing, nothing should be mentioned that is not repeated in more detail in the body.
• Is "Full-size hybrid luxury car" an actual class? Is the non-hybrid a "Full-size V8 luxury car"? No, so why is the hybrid drivetrain so special? My understanding of vehicles class involves the vehicle's size, SUV/non-SUV and body style.
• Historical overview: move this information into the relevant generation sections. If I want to quickly do some research because I want to buy first generation (UCF10) LS, I will probably use to TOC and read only the information under this section.
• "and designed a new 4.0 L V8 engine, four-speed automatic transmission": 4.0 L ---> 4.0 liter.
• It may be worth mentioning Luxury Exports to the United States, this was admitted by an Australian Lexus/Toyota official.
• "The Lexus LS 400 (UCF10 I)": "UCF10 I", aren't the originals simply branded "UCF10"?
• "which debuted for the 1990 model year" ---> which debuted in 1988 for the 1990 model year.
• "came equipped with a new 4.0 L..." 4.0 L ---> 4.0 liter (please follow this trend for all engine displacements).
• "producing 250 horsepower (190 kW) and 260 lb·ft (353 N·m) of torque": Japan uses the metric system, use metric figures first.
• "The LS 400 could accelerate from 0-60 in 7.9 seconds": try finding the metric 0-100 km/h figure (probably 8.0 seconds).
• "and had a top speed of 250 km/h (155 mph)": spell out km/h or try using {{convert|250|km/h|mph}}./
• "Compared to flagship sedans such as the BMW 735i and Mercedes-Benz 420 SE" ---> Compared to flagship sedans such as the BMW 735i (E32) and Mercedes-Benz 420 SE (W126).
• SRS [[airbag]]: ---> [[Airbag|SRS airbag]].
• "Adding incentive for early LS 400 sales in the U.S. was a bargain base price of US$35,000": bargain base? True (IMO), but price is subjective. Many people would think $35,000 is very expensive, especially those who only want a basic car. Remove the word "bargain".
• Avoid bolding "LS 400" et cetera in the generation sections. Only bold in the lead.
• "The second generation Lexus LS 400 (UCF20), which debuted for the 1995 model year": ---> The second generation Lexus LS 400 (UCF20), which debuted in Novermber 1994 for the 1995 model year.../

• Please follow this method for all instances of model years.

• Again imperial measurements in UCF20 (including the infobox). Please fix up these issues for the entire article.
• "Internally, over ninety percent of the second generation LS 400's composition": write out all number greater than 10, so ninety percent ---> 90 percent.
• "...trunk capacity was slightly reduced": link to trunk (automobile).
• "Sales for the redesigned LS 400 began in November 1994 in the U.S.": merge with beginning of UCF20 section.
• Infobox: "4-speed automatic (A341E)" ---> 4-speed A341E automatic. Follow this convention throughout the article.
• This article is very acronym happy: e.g. UV, GPS, rpm, etc. You must spell these out the first time, abbreviating in parentheses. Only very prevalent abbreviations (CD, DVD, LCD, etc) can be left unexplained (although still linked).
• Limited editions: move these models into their relevant generations.
• Safety systems: every car has safety features these days, and the LS has never really introduced anything groundbreaking in terms of active or passive safety (ABS, ESP, airbags, etc). Move this information in the relevant sections.
• "extra features were rushed for the launch of the 1991 Mercedes-Benz W140 S-Class" ---> 1991 Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W140).
• Media reception: only mentions the first and latest generations, move to appropriate section.
• Lexus LS awards list ---> List of awards won by the Lexus LS (or something similar).
• See also: kill this. Maybe the Toyota Century, Crown and Crown Majesta should be mentioned in the body instead as a precursor to the LS (and mention that both have remained in production despite the LS's arrival).
• Kill the "Japanese Car portal" link.
• The Toyota Celsior is barely mentioned, is more information available (any pictures)? Make sure you bold "Toyota Celsior" in the lead (very beginning of the lead too).
• Fix the infobox production fields from model years to actual production years (if this was a Cadillac this would not be so).
• Remove "FR layout" from the UCF20, UCF30 and USF40 infoboxes.
• If you can find a source saying that Euro sales number have been low because European cars have generally been better quality than their U.S. equivalents (Lincoln, Cadillac) add it.

Overall, this is a great article and I'll have another look at it when these changes have been made (I will probably find a couple of more things to do). Regards. OSX (talk • contributions) 05:45, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Please note that the reason why I have listed many small and easy changes instead if fixing them myself, is not because of laziness. I feel that people learn better through both active and passive techniques.

• There are still instances of unexplained model years in the UCFx0 II sections.
• There are seven links to disambiguation pages that should be pointed at more specific targets if possible [1]. OSX (talk • contributions) 00:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

The changes made to this article have exceeded my expectations. Therefore I am granting this article good article status. With a greater emphasis placed on internationalisation, this article would be quite close to FA (although FA reviewers will surely find many things to pick at as always). OSX (talk • contributions) 02:06, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your review and the advice given! It was a very informative experience, and helped improve the article a lot. Thanks again! SynergyStar (talk) 02:09, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

No worries. I'll be keeping this article on my watchlist to make changes as this article progresses further. OSX (talk • contributions) 02:12, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Also just to note, the article can now be removed from the Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations list, probably best by the reviewer? Thanks again. SynergyStar (talk) 02:25, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

2010 facelift

Here it is: [2]. OSX (talk • contributions) 02:19, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Thx for the info, I followed the links to the original JDM website which posted the info, it's now linked. Regards, SynergyStar (talk) 03:39, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

-- I'm not sure where to place this comment, but I updated to note that the Lexus was officially unseated this year as the most reliable vehicle in JD Power. http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2009/03/buick-jaguar-unseat-lexus-atop-jd-power-reliability-study.html

Still a dang reliable vehicle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.215.94.13 (talk) 15:02, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Recliner seat

Shouldn't there be a pic of the reclining rear seat? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Catyfro (talk • contribs) 19:29, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

There is a photo on the Lexus LS Hybrid page. SynergyStar (talk) 20:20, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Good Work

I've had a couple of these cars, and I found this article extremely interesting and informative. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.139.177 (talk) 22:18, 4 March 2010 (UTC)