Talk:List of Governors of California
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[edit] Jerry Brown picture
Surely someone has a better picture of Jerry Brown than that goofy painting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.148.190 (talk) 04:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Cali was never a territory... (I'm pretty sure)
Does anyone know the source for "Governor of the Territory of California, 1849-1850...1849-1850: Peter H. Burnett (Democrat)"? It's my understanding that California was never an incorporated territory, it went straight from military government to statehood. Congress never passed the organic act necessary for territoryhood. jengod 11:09, Feb 7, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Uncredited source
I don't see it say anywhere that the likenesses are those displayed in the Capitol, as chosen by the governors themselves. 66.218.54.163 (talk) 03:44, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- I don't understand what you mean; are you saying this is true, and we should include it? --Golbez (talk) 04:02, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Comments from WP:FLC
In the process of answering a question, I came across this list, which appears to be complete and well sourced. Is it feature worthy? - Mgm|(talk) 12:19, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- Comment - it is pretty good, but (i) the lead is rather short. For example, it would be worth briefly discussing details such as length of term, timing of elections and taking office, etc; (ii) there are no references (are the external links references?); (iii) the "races" table is incomplete in that it does not contain the numbers of votes for all races. Perhaps it should be reordered by place in the vote and headings added ("First", "Second", "Third", etc)? The boxes could also be coloured by party (although hard for Earl Warren in 1946!) as in the first table; (iv) the first table is in chronological order, but the second is in in reverse chronological order - I would prefer the second to be in the same order as the first; (v) it is not clear what the notes in the second table ("x of y districts") means. What happened to the other districts? These notes also make the first column wider than it needs to be - perhaps a "notes" column at the end, or a footnote? (vi) Is there a template for the "List of Governors" of the other 49 states? (I know the category does this, but a template eliminates one click). -- ALoan (Talk) 13:16, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- Comment Nice list. Did anybody know that Upton Sinclair ran for governor of California? Fascinating stuff. Anyway, I second the comments of ALoan above. I assume the external links are the references. If so, they should be listed under a reference section. Also, a few pictures would be nice. --Sophitus 19:11, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- Hmmm, apparently it wasn't as good as I thought it was. I'll copy these comments to the talk page of the list. - Mgm|(talk) 10:34, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- Comment - In regards to the "x of y districts", the reason I did that was because my source was a New York Times newspaper article on the elections, the day after them, and I couldn't find a more accurate result number after all the votes from 100% of the districts were counted.Cmdrbond 02:17, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Voter Turnout
Voter Turnout
Here is a list of state voter turnout percentages for presidential and gubernatorial primary and general elections.
Year Election Turnout Candidates
Nov. 1994 Gubernatorial general 60.2% * Wilson-Brown
June 1994 Gubernatorial primary 35.0%
Nov. 1992 Presidential general 75.3% Bush-Clinton
June 1992 Presidential primary 47.4%
Nov. 1990 Gubernatorial general 58.6% Wilson-Feinstein
June 1990 Gubernatorial primary 41.5%
Nov. 1988 Presidential general 72.8% Dukakis-Bush
June 1988 Presidential primary 46.1%
Nov. 1986 Gubernatorial general 60.0% Deukmejian-Bradley
June 1986 Gubernatorial primary 38.6%
Nov. 1984 Presidential general 73.9% Reagan-Mondale
June 1984 Presidential primary 49.3%
Nov. 1982 Gubernatorial general 69.7% Deukmejian-Bradley
June 1982 Gubernatorial primary 52.9%
Nov. 1980 Presidential general 76.5% Reagan-Carter
June 1980 Presidential primary 64.2%
Nov. 1978 Gubernatorial general 68.7% Brown-Younger
June 1978 Gubernatorial primary 74.1%
Nov. 1976 Presidential general 81.1% Carter-Ford
June 1976 Presidential primary 71.2%
Nov. 1974 Gubernatorial general 62.6% Brown-Flournoy
June 1974 Gubernatorial primary 51.7%
Nov. 1972 Presidential general 80.4% Nixon-McGovern
June 1972 Presidential primary 68.9%
- Early estimate by secretary of state's office
Source: Los Angeles County Registrar-Recorder
- Seems your source is flawed; Nov. 1986 was in no way "Deukmejian-Bradley" unless you consider that when history is written by the victors, nobody gives a flying rat's ass about anybody else anymore. 66.218.54.163 (talk) 03:44, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Earl Warren
Please clarify the following statement:
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- (elected as Republican in 1942, 1950; as Republican, Democrat, and Progressive in 1946)
How could he have run under 3 different parties in one year? --Asbl 19:29, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
- In 1946, Warren was nominated by and was the candidate of all three parties. From the Earl Warren entry:
- In 1946, Warren managed the singular feat of winning the Republican, Democratic, and Progressive primary elections and thus ran unopposed in the 1946 general election.
- Some states, notably New York, allow electoral fusion, which allows a candidate to seek and accept the nomination of more than one party. Acsenray 14:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Problem w/1974 election numbers
which are as follows:
Jerry Brown Democrat 1,609,298 50.1%
Houston I. Flournoy Republican 2,055,586 47.3%
I'm no mathematician but I see an error. Can someone supply the real numbers? --Jfruh (talk) 20:43, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] sort
It would be nice to make the 1st table sortable as the 2nd table is, but trying it results in all the columns disappearing when one column is sorted. Not a good outcome. Hmains (talk) 04:01, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- Right. It's the fact that lieutenant governors sometimes split governor rows. I hear they're working on a new version of the sortable script that takes that into account, but until then it's forced to be unsortable. (However, what really needs sorting? Name: The category is alphabetical. Party: Only a few options that are easily seen, so easy to count. Start/end date? Already sorted by that. Terms? I can see some use for this, but it's about the only one.) --Golbez (talk) 04:26, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Gavin Newsom
Newsom has chosen to complete his term as San Francisco Mayor, which expires on January 10th, 2011. According to the California Constitution, oath or no oath, he'll become the Lieutenant Governor of California at 11:AM PST (19:00 UTC). Is it legal for Neesom to hold both elective offices con-currently over the next week (Jan 3-10)? GoodDay (talk) 19:15, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- Many people delay resigning from being a governor to become a senator or representative; they don't become a member of congress until their credentials are accepted and, I believe, they are sworn in. I don't think you can as easily put off an election to an executive position, however. If a governor were elected to be president, he would become president precisely when the law proscribes, rather than when he decides it. I don't know if that would count as an automatic resignation, though. So the questions are: Is it possible for Newsom to delay becoming Lt. Gov (being an executive office elected by the people, my guess is no), and is he legally allowed to serve as both a mayor and in the executive at the same time? (This, I do not know) --Golbez (talk) 21:32, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- User:Corvus cornix helpfully linked me this post [1] which links to this article [2] about how it may be a legal thing he's doing. I can't read it in depth at the moment, just wanted to offer it. --Golbez (talk) 21:44, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
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- We could probably put in some sort of footnote that says his term doesn't start till he takes the oath, which he is holding off on. Corvus cornixtalk 21:45, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- There's also an apparent disagreement over at Abel Maldonado article. He wasn't elected LtG last November, so according to the State Constitution, he ceased to be LtG today at 11:00 AM PST. Yet he's still got his LtG website up. GoodDay (talk) 22:36, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps not; the Sac Bee says, "The state constitution says the current officeholder stays in the post "until a successor qualifies," a phrase both Newsom's attorneys and Maldonado interpret as the new guy taking the oath of office." Unless the state courts disagree, I say we run with it. --Golbez (talk) 15:14, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
- For the record, there is there is nothing about 11:00 AM whatsoever in the California Constitution.http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/.const/.article_5 Indeed, this is why Ronald Reagan was sworn in as Governor a few minutes after midnight, as his predecessor, Pat Brown, remained Governor until his successor (Reagan) took office.See bottom of page 172 to top of page 173 of Governor Reagan: His Rise to Power by Lou Cannon. OCNative (talk) 05:44, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps not; the Sac Bee says, "The state constitution says the current officeholder stays in the post "until a successor qualifies," a phrase both Newsom's attorneys and Maldonado interpret as the new guy taking the oath of office." Unless the state courts disagree, I say we run with it. --Golbez (talk) 15:14, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
- There's also an apparent disagreement over at Abel Maldonado article. He wasn't elected LtG last November, so according to the State Constitution, he ceased to be LtG today at 11:00 AM PST. Yet he's still got his LtG website up. GoodDay (talk) 22:36, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- We could probably put in some sort of footnote that says his term doesn't start till he takes the oath, which he is holding off on. Corvus cornixtalk 21:45, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
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Newsom got sworn in today, so he's officially LtGov. He's on the state LtGov page, too. Corvus cornixtalk 23:09, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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