Talk:List of NOVA episodes

Please Help

• This page needs a great deal of work. I'm not sure if I've chosen the best format for the tables.
• This page is going to be extremly long and well over the limit of Wikipedia's standardization. Should it be broken into decades, or another format?
• The Offical NOVA site has a list of the all the episodes w/synopsis. Should the synopsis be added?

Pattersonc 04:24, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

• I'm going to leave this for a good week as-is. If anyone feels the format should be changed to allow for easier reading please do it now as after 30 seasons of data are added it will be much more difficult to accopmplish. Pattersonc 20:19, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

• What about adopting the format of List of The Office (U.S. TV series) episodes. That way the episode synopsis are in the same place as the list of episodes. The current way there is essentially two lists that one must look at to get info about an episode. Qutezuce 20:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

• I looked at that before when looking for the best option. I felt the lack of episodic pics would make it look too confusing. Thank you for your assitance and replies.

The synopsis' seem to be copyed directly from the NOVA website. This is probably not allowed as that text is not under the GFDL. Qutezuce 20:38, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

• I hadn't thought of that. I will continue to just add the episode hard data sans the synopsis. Pattersonc 20:43, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Would a link to the NOVA official site within the episode list be appropriate? Catbar (Brian Rock) 02:13, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

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The same reasoning could be applied to every other episode list on Wikipedia. But they are still there, so there is likely some provision of copyright that allows such kind of copying of data of that nature. Qutezuce 23:06, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

As long as the WGBH can not prove the list came from their web site then it really does not matter. It could have come from PBS' shedule. Besides if I can not copy anything then I can not copy the copyright notice. Timothy Clemans 07:23, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Sad and very disappointing that PBS/WGBH/Nova should take this attitude. If anyone should know the value of shared information, it should be these folks. Inappropriate and excessive use of copyright licences so damage our ability to share what should be free information. But it's the law. Catbar (Brian Rock) 11:21, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

It costs money to pay people as editors and cameramen, writers, hosts, producers, etc. They are no dout thinking of Wikipedia. Timothy Clemans 02:34, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Too bad WGBH takes such a short view. I could see this article become a rich resource to explore the subject matter that NOVA has covered over the years, with all kinds of hyperlinks to the material covered in each episode. This could have worked to the greater glory of the NOVA staff and WGBH, at least in theory, increasing the value of their franchise. Since I'm prevented from mining their website (and I won't since they've demanded it), now that is less likely to happen. Sad. Catbar (Brian Rock) 03:18, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

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Horizon

This page should indicate which espisodes are re-edited/narrated episodes of Horizon Jooler 15:26, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I largely agree that the Horizon/Nova connection should be noted somehow, but the superscripted notes really make the table ugly. I propose either replacing the largely neglected "Topic" column with "Notes" or adding a "Notes" column. There's not a lot of space to work with, though. Any other ideas? Majorclanger (talk) 20:04, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree the < sub> is not the best way to present this informaton. Yes, perhaps the 3rd column could be renamed notes. Jooler (talk) 20:34, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, I'll sit on it for a few days in case anybody else has any input, but unless there's an objection, I'll replace "Topic" with "Notes" and shift the content over to it. Majorclanger (talk) 21:34, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm an ex-producer of both progs and support Jooler's move to note where they're one and the same. It's pretty obvious that <sub> doesn't work, so I support Majorclanger's initiative too. --El Ingles (talk) 23:45, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I think that getting rid of the topics column would be a good move. As it is now, this list is identical to the list on the PBS website. However, I would rather see a new row created for the Horizon information, rather than placing it into a column. Lengthy titles next to lengthy notes are going to break into new lines anyway, so why not plan for that and create a new row. New rows only need to be created as they're used, and this would prevent a lot of empty column cells. Using a new row might also encourage the addition of episode summaries, which would improve this list as well. - Sarilox (talk) 17:30, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Episode list template

I have converted this episode list to use Template:Episode list. In the process I found and added many episodes which were missing from this list and the list on the PBS website. As a result, I decided to remove the running episode count, since there may be more missing episodes. The total episode count can be found in the code at the end of the list. I have also removed the topics column because it may be a copyright violation as almost all of the topics were taken directly from the list on the PBS website. Instead of topics, it seems more appropriate to add an original short summary. I have also moved all of the superscripted production information from the title cell into a summary cell. Finally, to further differentiate this list from the version on the PBS website, I divided this list into actual broadcast seasons rather than by year. Sarilox (talk) 23:58, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Whoa! Great work! My only reservation is with the removal of the Nova ScienceNow episodes - I'm not sure these should be considered a separate series... but I'm willing to be convinced! Majorclanger (talk) 00:01, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Oops, forgot to mention that. I did remove all of the Nova Science Now episodes as I had previously added them to the NOVA scienceNOW article. As of the third season (2008) it is its own series with its own time slot and production codes. Check out this press release(pdf) for more info. Convinced? Sarilox (talk) 00:22, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

It's a little bit too revisionist for my liking (the first two batches, anyway), but I can live with it. Probably ought to have a prominent link to the scienceNOW article somewhere, though. Majorclanger (talk) 01:16, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Minor corrections

Some of the later "Secrets of Lost Empires" are labeled on the cover as "Secrets of Lost Empires II". I made the correction to the Medieval Siege episode; however, this change was reverted. Comments?Phillipbeynon (talk) 06:40, 1 September 2010 (UTC)