Talk:List of Washington Metro stations

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Wow, that's gnarly. This page sits untouched for months, then two of us start wikifying the stations. Should we decide on some sort of uniform format, like what the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Station Stations tried to do, but has apparently lay idle?

Also, what about format for the station pages names? There is no present Wikiproject for station (naming). I took a cue from the tube stations (where one is Acton Town tube station), and named mine Foggy Bottom-GWU Washington Metro station. Now, "Metro Center" is pretty unique, but I just wanted input. I'm new here, but already hopelessly addicted, and scared to death that I'm doing things wrong. --Golbez 03:04, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)

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Just another thought - if we have to disambiguate station pages, then that creates some non-standard names.

For example, we would have: Foggy Bottom-GWU Tenleytown-AU Van Ness-UDC

But then we would require disambiguated names for ones like: Rockville Vienna Smithsonian Anacostia

So should we just go with one format? I'm gonna play around in the Wikiproject now.

Color boxes

The color boxes need to go. These are not accessible for blind users or users of text-based browsers or monochrome monitors. --NE2 06:56, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I hover over the boxes with my mouse, and I see text pop up, which indicates to me that they're sufficiently accessible. SchuminWeb (Talk) 13:19, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Not really... if you have a monochrome monitor, or you're colorblind, you'll have to hover over each one to see what it is. --NE2 14:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Premature for Purple to be on here?

Does anyone else think it's still slightly premature to have Purple Line stations on here? SchuminWeb (Talk) 14:44, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree; it's not even 'planned', according to our article it's still in the proposal stage. --Golbez (talk) 17:31, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

The consensus seems to be that Purple Line individual stations are still premature. I put back the changes to the table to add the state columns but left off the Purple Line stations and transfer points. I hope that's acceptable. Dkendr (talk) 18:02, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:45, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

New York Avenue

I called up the Office of the Red Line Manager at Metro and was told that NY Ave-Fl Ave-Gallaudet is B35. The person that I talked to will try to get the PR office or someone whose name is already public to email me something.Naraht (talk) 13:56, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Images on right margin

I recently added a row of images along the right margin, in line with current FL station lists like List of Bay Area Rapid Transit stations. It was reverted with the concern that the images may cause crowding with the table for users with smaller screens. Since I've been working on tweaking the list for an FL nom, I'd like to add the images back in, but wanted to seek input from other editors of the page. To whit:

• Should the images be added back in?
• Is there a way to prevent the issue ShuminWeb was concerned about that cause the reversion, while still having the images to meet FLC precedent?

Geraldk (talk) 12:30, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Improvements and updates needed

Working on a rail system station list of my own, I've been looking at this list as a reference due to its FL status. But I can't help and feel there are a few improvements that can be made here since it was promoted to the status back in 2009.

• Station codes – I don't really feel as if these are necessary because they are only used internally by WMATA. The original citation of the user-created track map is an unreliable source. I searched forever to find a document on WMATA's site with the codes listed and only came across one. Seeing as it was so hard to find on the site, I doubt its very important or relevant. I still haven't been able to find a reliable source for the Silver Line codes.
• "Top stations by ridership" section – This section seems redundant since the ridership is already listed in the main section, and any viewer can easily sort the table to see which stations have the highest ridership. Although, the figures are different between the two tables. The main table lists Union Station as having a daily ridership of 34,465, while the other table lists 32,935. The dates for the information are also pretty old, as old as May 2006 and only as recent as 2009. I also tagged the list with {{update}}.

This would probably get demoted in a featured list review candidate, which I'd like to avoid, so hopefully we can update this and decide whether to keep additional content. –Dream out loud (talk) 02:13, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't see how they hurt, and they are helpful is articulating the sequence of stations along each line. Internal documents can be reliable sources, and printed materials are reliable sources even if they are not posted on the WMATA website. 66.173.140.100 (talk) 21:59, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it hurts either but just because something "doesn't hurt" doesn't mean it should be kept. Plus the opening date column takes care of the opening sequence of the stations along the lines. I personally don't think its too important because I don't think the codes are widely used or notable to be included in the article (unlike Amtrak station codes). As far as sources go, the one for the current stations is fine, but I can't find any type of source for the Silver Line stations. Finding the codes for the other station was hard enough. After only seeing one document on the whole website that contains the codes, I questioned myself as to whether they are that important. This is definitely something that requires a consensus to be made. –Dream out loud (talk) 00:39, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Actually, sorting the stations by ridership doesn't work properly. The sort is essentially "alphabetic" rather than numerical, resulting in this:

McPherson Square 17,370

Rosslyn 18,122

Capitol Heights 2,221

Eisenhower Avenue 2,496

You see the problem. Can this be fixed? Currently there is no way to see which stations have the highest (or lowest) ridership without sifting through the entire table. I'd fix it if I knew how, but I don't. --Tkynerd (talk) 18:20, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

The ridership needs to be within {{nts}}, for instance {{nts|9539}}. The software will add the spacing commas and will sort is properly. This needs to be done for all the stations. This is similar to how the opening dates use {{dts}}. Arsenikk ^(talk) 19:07, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

It's because 2 comes after 1, in computer-speak. There's a way to code it with leading zeroes. In other words, where Rosslyn has 18,122--five spaces--we have to put for Capitol Heights, 02,221. When coded right, the leading zeroes do not show in the article; the coding just instructs the system in how to order it. I accomplished this correction in some articles with countries listed by area and population, showing the same problem; I figured out how to do it by looking at pages where it came out right. Whenever I get a chance, I might try to undertake it here (it's tricky, finicky work; I briefly made a country disappear, by omitting a square bracket). 173.79.191.234 (talk) 13:03, 27 November 2011 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza

Somebody's already fixed it with {{nts}}. If you sort the stations by ridership now, you'll see that it works correctly. So no intervention needed, but thanks anyway. :) --Tkynerd (talk) 17:11, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Time to get this back to a Featured List

I was disappointed to see that this was de-featured back in April. It's a good list, and the basic structure is still there. But, there's a lot to do, which I'm starting now:

• Remove the station codes; they're an internal designator only and they don't serve any conceivable purpose here.
• Update ridership data to 2010 data when it becomes possible
• Update stats in the lead section at least to 2009 data, and preferably to 2010

And some thoughts of my own:

• Improve coverage and explanation of the Silver Line
• Add more pictures to the right-hand side of the page

And future work:

• Update each year when ridership data is available
• Add new station colors in 2012 when the Yellow and Orange lines have alternate peak-hour routings

I'm starting on this work now; any help would be appreciated. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 15:38, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

I have now removed the station codes, and updated all stats in the lead section to 2010 data save one 2009. I rewrote part of the into, and all of the Planned Stations section. Added projected opening dates to the future stations, and there's commented-out color boxes all ready to go for next year's service changes.

I also put out feelers outside of Wikipedia for full 2010 data, so we'll see about that. Now to add some pictures and I'll be done for the night. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:27, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

November Updates

Hi. I used the Template:nts to fix the number sorting and I also put in the latest passenger boarding data from FY2011 from WMATA. Let me know if you have any questions. Best, epicAdam^(talk) 20:11, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

epicAdam, you've lived up to your username. That looks fantastic, and great catch with the Wolf Trap station that's completely vanished from consideration. With your addition of 2011 data, this is just about ready to go back to FLC to return to its former status as a featured list. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:01, 2 November 2011 (UTC)