Talk:List of converts to Islam

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Ice Cube

...is listed under both Christianity and undetermined former religion. Also, according to Ice Cube, he is "not for the pop charts". --Denise from the Cosby Show (talk) 01:06, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Queen Noor

Question: How about an article on the list of those who feared death if they left Islam? I guess that article would be too long for Wikipedia... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Refreshingly29242924 (talk • contribs) 00:15, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Question : Should Queen Noor be in the list, as she convered so she could marry ? - the text at the top of the page would seem to say not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Codf1977 (talk • contribs) 10:49, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

It's what it says, that's why I will delete your entry.--Chrono1084 (talk) 18:11, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks (BTW - was not my entry) - Just wanted to check that was what it ment. Codf1977 (talk) 18:45, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

No problem, sorry I thought it was yours.--Chrono1084 (talk) 17:51, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Marriage

There are at least three people listed on the page who have converted for reasons of marriage, before I (or someone else) removes them, I just wish to check that it is still the concessions view that they should not be on the list.

They are:

• Khaled Edward Blair - British barrister, later married Princess Badiya bint El Hassan of Jordan.
• Jemima Goldsmith daughter of the billionaire Sir James, who was married to Imran Khan
• Kishore Kumar - Famous Indian singer who converted when he married Madhubala.

Comments please. Codf1977 (talk) 07:55, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

If those are marital conversions, you can proceed with their deletion.--Chrono1084 (talk) 22:59, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

I find it very confusing, why should those who convert before marriage should not be listed? did they not convert to Islam? It should list all people who did convert to the religion regardless of marriage reasons or not because they have converted to Islam, this is a list which shows people which have converted to Islam. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DinajGao (talk • contribs) 22:29, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Reports

There are several reports of conversion of Brian Lara,Neil Armstrong,Napoleon and Sunita Williams but I have no proof. Can anyone get reports?asa 05:30, 6 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mzsabusayeed (talk • contribs)

The Wikipedia page is called "List of converts to Islam". Aren't the converts who converted because of marriage still converts? If one were to ask any of them what religion they were or are they would say Muslim. Just post a link or a source that informs the reader that she converted for marriage rather than removing her off the list. Like I said before the page is called "Lists of Converts to Islam". They are converts. <-- obikua —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.77.217.101 (talk) 20:06, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Nation of islam is not muslim

this is considered a heretical sect and thus shouldn't be on the list

It's a heretical sect but it's still a heretical sect of Islam, which has adopted many Islamic practices. Plot Spoiler (talk) 13:18, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Nation of Islam has no connection whatsoever to Islam. The name is very misleading indeed, however, through research, you will find out that the Nation of Islam believe in one god, which is the common theme amongst all Abrahamic religions including Islam. That's about the only common similarity between Islam and The Nation of Islam. Adherents of this religion believe that Fard Mohammed who founded the religion in 1930 is the equivilant of the Christian Messiah and Islam's Mahdi. Furthermore, they believe that blacks were the first humans and the white race is still evolving. With that said, Islam and the Nation of Islam could not be any more different, in fact, Christianity and Judaism have a lot in common with Islam than the Nation of Islam does. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.123.124.250 (talk) 02:44, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Jews and Judaism

Please do not speculate regarding the religion of various ethnic Jews who have converted to Islam. Jews may practise any religion, or none, and it's a good bet that if they're described as "secular... Marxist" they weren't practising Judaism before their conversion. Jayjg ^(talk) 23:43, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

While true that Jews may practice any religion they please, or none at all for that matter, it's still a far cry from mere "speculation" that a Jew would just so happen to practice Judaism. While I agree that we shouldn't be rushing to ASSUMPTIONS that a Jew is a practicing Jew or not (of Judaism, of course,) but what you're doing on this talk page is helping to propagate the same old myth fabricated and pushed by those who would like to invent some sort of fictitious disconnect between modern-day Jews and the Jews of Ancient Israel, as though the Jews of today have no historical ties to Israel. Please stop doing that. WrentchTosser (talk) 10:50, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

What on earth are you talking about? Jayjg ^(talk) 01:17, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

please add these people

Please add Pierre Vogel a German Islamic preacher and former professional Boxer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Vogel

Please add Kristiane Backer a German-born television presenter, television journalist and author residing in London. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristiane_Backer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.77.121.61 (talk) 12:00, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

please add Dr Laurence B Brown, American ophthalmologist and author of 5 books, converted from Christianity to Islam in 1994. refs: http://www.leveltruth.com/author.html (personal website) http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Dr+laurence+B+brown&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3ADr+laurence+B+brown&ajr=3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAIWLzPkseE

Please add Dr Jeffrey Lang, Professor of mathematics at the University of Kansas and author of 3 books, converted from Christianity to Islam refs: http://www.welcome-back.org/profile/jeffrey_lang.shtml http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=jeffrey+land&x=0&y=0#/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=jeffrey+lang&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Ajeffrey+lang http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcNOaePZT68

Please add Sara Bokker - Sara Bokker is a former actress, model, fitness instructor, and activist. Currently, Sara is director of communications at The March for Justice, a co-founder of The Global Sisters Network, and producer of the infamous Shock & Awe Gallery©. Sara may be reached at srae@marchforjustice.com. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caimiasd (talk • contribs) 09:17, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Please add Dr Jerald Dirks, a former Christian minister and author of 6 books and co-author of 2 http://www.welcome-back.org/profile/dirks1.shtml http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=jeffrey+land&x=0&y=0#/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_12?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=jerald+dirks&sprefix=jerald+dirks&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Ajerald+dirks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOZSrPF5GNo

Please add Chauncey Lamont Hawkins aka loon, a former rapper who converted from christianity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhLWOXKlHys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZFueqQnops

Please add Margaret Marcus, aka Maryam Jameela, author of many books, who converted from Judaism to Islam: http://www.nmfuk.org/danfodio/MaryamJameelasBiography.pdf http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_15?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=maryam+jameelah&x=0&y=0&sprefix=maryam+jameelah 216.80.92.69 (talk) 06:09, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Some of them are not notable; others are already in the list. Please check the list to see who is already on it, and please note the list only contains individuals with Wikipedia articles. Jayjg ^(talk) 02:57, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

you're right loon and Jerald Dirks are already in the list. sorry i missed this. Laurence Brown HAS a wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_B._Brown about the list only including "notable persons", the title is "list of american muslims" and not "notable muslims"..i believe being an author with published books or articles is enough for someone to be considered notable. 216.80.92.69 (talk) 21:38, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Sikhism

Guru Nakak Dev who is listed under "Sikhism" as a convert to Islam is not true. He was born into a hindu household, which can be verified on the wiki page "Guru Nanak Dev". He declared himself nor Hindu or Muslim at a communion and died without owing any allegiance to any religion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.57.37 (talk) 12:54, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Michael Jackson

it is very much confirmed that conversion of MJ was nothing but another hoax like neil armstrong and sunita williams keeping the latest revealations no new reference has been pointed out only the initial fake article by "THE SUN" has been mentioned the so called imam who converted MJ into islam has already denied that and the tendency of muslims to lay false claim is not new and hence MJ name must be deleted from the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ASHOKBINDUSARA (talk • contribs) 12:06, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Quoting the FAQ from Talk:Michael Jackson, for future reference: "The article should not mention reports that Michael Jackson was Muslim. Jackson had not publicly spoken about his exact religion in a number of years and only spoke about spirituality in general terms. The specific reports of a conversion ceremony for Jackson have been denied by his New York lawyer Londell McMillan. They were also denied by Yusuf Islam/Cat Stevens and Dawud Wharnsby who were allegedly present at the ceremony. The Michael Jackson memorial service did not involve any Islamic rites. Without further details from his family or representatives, it will not be included in the article." --McGeddon (talk) 13:07, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Susanne Osthoff - German archaeologist

At least part of the reason for her "conversion" to Islam was her intent to marry her Muslim husband, which, according to Muslim teaching, makes a "conversion" necessary. The claim that the article "is not intended to address ethnic, cultural, or other considerations, such as marriage" is obviously false, at least with regard to her case. Georgm76 (talk) 12:45, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Infobox problem

The image of the twenty converts in the infobox is screwed up as there are only 19 names listed underneath it. I'm not sure who is missing as the first face I recognise is Malcolm X but he is the ninth picture and only the eighth name so it is one of those old timers before him. Somebody who knows who they all are needs to fix it. Thanks. Keresaspa (talk) 19:27, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

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