Talk:List of extinct animals of New Zealand
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[edit] Blue-billed Duck removed from list
I've removed the Blue-billed Duck from the list. Horn listed shoveler (Anas rhynchotis) and blue-billed duck (Oxyura australis). Specimens attributed to the latter are all now considered to be other taxa but mainly scaup (Holdaway et al. 2000). [1] The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species lists the Blue-billed Duck as Near Threatened (NT) and BirdLife International does the same! Pmaas 16:19, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Similar Page
A lot of this information is on List of New Zealand birds. I wonder whether these pages could be combined. It is not good practise to have the same information in more than one place - maintenance issues, etc. It seems the only other animals are the bats, so shouldn't take too much work. What does the panel think? GrahamBould 13:35, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
- Besides mammals (bats), this article also covers NZ reptiles, amphibians, fish and insects. Are these covered elsewhere?
- While I agree some of the bird information is duplicated (on New Zealand birds as well as List of New Zealand birds), this article has a unique focus on extinctions. The other articles state or imply that they only cover birds that lived to see human settlement, which seems like a reasonable choice for those broader articles. But it also means that they can't be as comprehensive as this one. For instance, there are 14 prehistoric penguins listed here that aren't on the other lists. This is also the only one of these articles that distinguishes between prehistoric extinctions, post-Polynesian extinctions and post-European extinctions. I wouldn't want to see that information lost. -- Avenue 00:37, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
- Indeed some of the birds can be found elsewhere, but as said by Avenue, this list is on extinction, not only birds. Also many other animals (not only bats), like reptiles, insects, etc. And there are also lists like this for other regions and countries. So I would not combine this article with List of New Zealand birds. This article shows only the extinct animals. More info is of course always welcome. Pmaas 13:31, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Pre-Holocene extinctions
Why shouldn't we list these in this article? We did until they were removed just now. Is it because we divide up the bird extinctions according to human settlement dates?-118.93.188.73 (talk) 18:43, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- I think we should include them. We still do for birds - most of the listed extinctions from before human settlement are pre-Holocene. Fivemack's edit summary for the first removal said "The article clearly doesn't intend to list creatures that went extinct before the Holocene", but the opposite seems clear to me. The lead sentence defines the list's scope as being "extinct New Zealand animals", which includes pre-Holocene extinctions. While we could change the list's scope, it would be good to discuss it here first. -- Avenue (talk) 09:58, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
