Talk:Mansions of Rastafari

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While this article manages to describe some parts of 3 biggest mansions, each part really lacking. There is no real insight on any of the house description, no single format and obvious bias in the way how certain dogmas are described. Very poor article in overall. Rasjani 21:41, 9 February 2006 (UTC)?????????????????????????????? GLORIFY MY LORD OR EMPRESS,PRAY ALL IS UP FULL IN THE BLACK GOD NAME SELASSIE I JAH RAS, TAFARI,,,KNOW INI IS A PROPHET IN THE E.A.B.I.C. SEEN AND TO READ THIS MY LORD OR EMPRESS THIS IS A JOKE THING,PLEASE REFRAIN FROM DOING THIS UNTIL YOU REASON WITH A HON PRIEST OF THE E.A.B.I.C. OR JUST GO TO HQ 10MILE BULLBAY AKA LIONSBAY SAINT ANDREW JAMAICA,YOU CAN'T MISS IT SEEN. GIVE THANKS ALSO I MAN NOT SURE ABOUT THE REST OF HOUSE BUT IT WOULD BE WISE TO LINK EWF AND 12TRIBE PEOPLE THEM SEEN MAY BE YOU DID, YES I ALSO BOBO SUPORT 1 TWO NAIYABINGE BASS BRUM- FUNDE-KETE 7 PRIEST PON JAH GOLDEN ALTAR WITH SHAKER SEEN,ALSO IS A BIG DIFFERENCE WITH GETING INI TURBAN,NUFF CLOTH HEAD OUT THERE BUT FEW GET THEM CROWN IN THE ROYAL MANNA REAL TING,INI CAN GO ON AND ON WITH E.A.B.I.C. PRINCIPLE IS A JOY FE ME, ANYWAYS MO LOVE AND LIGHT DO THE RIGHT THING... HOLY EMMANUEL I SELASSIE I JAH RAS TAFARI.........ALSO BOBO IS NOT NO MASONS INI IS EARTH RIGHT FULL RULER GOD AND GODDESS OF OUR UNIVERSE GLORIFY.

Cleanup

This article needs a good bit of attention. There are more than three mansions of Rastafari, not even counting the various off-shoots that are considered respectable. There is nothing here on the Ethiopian World Federation or the Rastas in the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, for instance, though we have to be careful not to include pseudo-mansions that exist only on the Internet, such as "Fulfilled House", which takes their name from a comment made by Judy Mowatt. More detail needs to be given about each of the mansions, their history and principles, in a respectful but NPOV way. Whig 07:02, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

No! Takwedo Church YES, is a source of Rasta Belief, but NOT a Rasta house.

Houses Not Listed - RASTA UNITY MOVEMENTS (uniting Rastas)

1) Rastafarian Centralization organisation

   http://web.syr.edu/~affellem/rco.html

2) Shashamanie Settlement

  City where Rastas live no matter the house
  concept of a holy city on Earth donated by H.I.M
  http://www.shashamane.org/
  Check 

3) Ethiopian World Federation

   http://ethiopianworldfed.org/
   A NGO with consultative status by UN

Houses listed READ INFO on sites

1) Official House oF Nyabinghi

  Web site - http://nyahbinghi.org/
  Arguing for Rasta Theocracy. Oldest one.
  About order - http://nyahbinghi.org/nyahbinghi/nyahbinghi_order.htm
 Theocracy reign concept - http://nyahbinghi.org/nyahbinghi/theocracy.htm

2) House Of Bobo dreads House Of Bobo - http://houseofbobo.com/ Creed Of Bobo oder - http://houseofbobo.com/sab.htm

3)Yes, 12 Tribes have no official web site. How sad

Best is if you can read Rastafarians ~ Leonard Barrett -- (Paperback - January 31, 1998) Our Price: £13.29 Used & New from £5.99

Comments about above paragraph. First of, its true that 12 tribes of israel does not have official website. This is due to wish of Prophet Gad. However, there are many websites which are hosted/maintained by official members of the mansion. Then, there is no "House Of Bobo dreads". Official name would be Bobo Ashanti.

Rastafari Centralization Organization, RCO is not a mansion per se. Its a group of individual persons who gather and work towards unifying the whole rastafari movement. Bobo Asahanti & Nyabinghi support RCO, Twelve Tribes is not part of RCO. Shassamane Settlement is not really a mansion either. Its more of a community project which aims to schooling infrastructure to land grant. All houses present in Shassamane are taking part of this project but for a time being, Twelve Tribes is seen as a leading house in this project.

Also, i'd like to raise a question on the validity of EWF, if its a rasta mansion or not. If my memory is working correctly, the origins of the group are not within the rastafari movement even thou many of its members are rastafari. Rasjani 21:32, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Ethiopian Zion Coptic Church

I oppose this being merged with this article, asd they are a Christian group and this article is exclusively about Rastafarian groups, SqueakBox 00:19, September 13, 2005 (UTC)

i being an ethiopian oppse the idea as well no true ethiopian would dare call himself a rastafarian

This article should not be merged. It is not an article but the report of an incident. It has no importance to a broader NPOV discussion of the ideas it claims to espouse.

i also think that it should not be merged with Rastafari as Ethiopian Zion Coptic Church are not in any way part of the Rastafari movement. They share reverence for Marcus Garvey, however they do not follow the teachings of, or claim inspiration from Haile Selassie I, the common thread of all Rastafari Mansions.

ZCC Was part of the Jamaican history its works are covered within few books that cover the history of rastafari movement but its usually categorized as totally seperate movement which has only loaned ideas. I oppose the integration. Rasjani 21:35, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Dont merge, not rasta mansion or house.

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Don't merge it. It will be false.

Niyabinghi section

This needs extreme cleanup and I suspect it contains plagarized text as it currently stands. Nyahbinghi as its actually spelt really mean "death to the oppressors" regardless. This misconseption about "black victory" started when the oppressor was the white colonialist

Should not Nyabinghi come first? --79.175.66.251 (talk) 23:48, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

The "Twelve Tribes of Israel" Link

The link listed at the foot of the "Mansions" article is in fact to the page of a tiny Christian sect, who do not claim to be part of the Rastafarian faith, but simply share a name.N.B. the media concern regarding this unrelated group.It's not a recent article, but this is from the UK Guardian in 2000... http://www.guardian.co.uk/racism/Story/0,,339216,00.html#article_continue --Scroobious 22:58, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

"The Twelve Tribes of Israel" link (cont.)

Apologies, should have checked before posting above, but there is a detailed discussion of this Christian group, titled "Twelve Tribes" and accessable from the disambiguation.Still an incorrect link, mind. Scroobious 23:08, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Bobo Ashanti, Racism, Misogyny, et. al.

There really need to be some sources and citations to support these claims. Also, the sentence "However, some consider Bobos deeply racist against white people, as well as misogynistic" is exceptionally weak sans citations. Who are these "some?" JasonPresyl 23:54, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Jimmy Cliff & Prince Buster Muslim?

Is there any citation for this statement in the Nyabinghi section?? I have researched Jimmy Cliff's own site, and it states he has studies all rleigions of the world, but noting about being Muslim?? I havent found enough research on Prince Buster?--Chicagomusicfan 22:38, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Cliff is indeed a Muslim, and I've heard the same regarding Buster, but like most of what's written on this page, it could use a citation.--Chimino (talk) 10:42, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Churchical?

Is "churchical" a real word? Isn't it "ecclesiastical" or something? 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 14:17, 25 June 2008 (UTC)