Talk:Martha Gellhorn

Martha Gellhorn first met Ernest Hemingway in Key West according to her conversations with John Simpson reported in his book A Mad World, My Masters.

Cause of death

As far as I know there are no wikirules against stating cause or manner of death. I have reverted to earlier copy: "At the age of 89, ill and nearly completely blind, she ended her life by taking a poison pill." Bardwell 16:58, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Cause of death and marital indiscretions

Gellhorn herself asserted that Hemingway slept with only five women in his entire life, counting his four marriages. These remarks can be found in the book on Hemingway and Gellhorn's trip to China in 1940, "Hemingway on the China Front."

Also, "poison pill" is misleading. Supposedly she took an overdose of sleeping pills. HolySh!tIAmOnFire (talk) 19:52, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Utan Vax's "clean-up"

I lodged a mild protest today about what I consider less than useful edits on Utan Vax's discussion page, particularly his/her call for a citation in immediate juxtaposition with a properly sourced quotation. He/she is not willing to budge, and I don't go in for edit wars. Any other watchers of this page intereste--El Ingles (talk) 19:03, 1 September 2008 (UTC)d?

Erm, if you are referring to this edit [1], Utan made a good call there. Removing a deleted image and removing idle speculation as to someone's love life is a good thing. A random authoring saying "he could've slept with her" is not a well sourced or encyclopedic fact. MBisanz ^talk 22:18, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I am referring to that edit. The facts of Gellhorn's sex life are far from idle, and are an important part of her personality, as Moorehead correctly realised. The fact that she remained friendly with de Jouvenal is also of legitimate interest to the reader of an encyclopedia. "Sexual desires" is not an improvement on "sexual conquests" in the context. Actually it's a bit weasely. But my main complaint is that Utan Vax calls for a citation when one is given in immediate juxtaposition with his fact tag. Cheers. --El Ingles (talk) 14:14, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Regardless, it's better than it was. "Her spectacular sexual conquests" pales in comparison to my version. Of course, there's always a "better" alternative, but, anyway, please read WP:NPOV. We can't write WP:OR or WP:SPECULATION. Utan Vax (talk) 15:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, to reflect the main problem with the sentence (that, for some reason, you reinserted here amongst other things despite its many faults), I have changed it to an {{or}} tag. Utan Vax (talk) 15:12, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Note the following chronology difficulty "The pair celebrated Christmas of 1937 together in Barcelona. Later, from Germany, she reported on the rise of Adolf Hitler" How so, he became chancellor in 1933 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.210.69.34 (talk) 19:41, 21 April 2011 (UTC)