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  1. When did this whole idea of a "Messiah" came to existance ?
  2. Who are the names behind it?
  3. What was the social situation the jews were facing ? Were they in the exile ? Isn't the messianic idea the "rational" solution for a people who is in captivity and does not have the means to organise itself politically ? --217.228.223.17 22:48, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Some scholars have suggested that messianic beliefs came into Judiasm from Zoroastrianism. Cyrus the first (Cyrus the Great), leader of the Persian empire, captured Israel from the Babylonian empire. Cyrus had made a habit of restoring the local religions that the Babylonians had suppressed. Even the Zoroastrian preists of Cyrus's empire were from a land Cyrus or one of his predecessors (can't remember) had captured and controlled. Because of the benevolence of the Persian empire, ending the Babylonian captivity and helping to rebuild the Jewish temple, and because of the theological similarities between the Judiasm and the Persian preistly caste, Zoroastrianism had a profound influence on the Jewish people and possibly vice versa. Some scholars have tried to relate this event to the story of Daniel and the Lion's den where Jewish leaders are said to have taught another people many things. I don't know what the support for this reading is.

Interestingly, the "Magi" who appear at the beginning of the New Testament are Zoroastrian preists.


--68.104.139.213 01:45, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Zoroastrian priests? Where did you get that idea? Certainly not from the Biblical account. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.100.218.210 (talk) 17:45, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Zoroastrianism began in the 5th Century BCE in Persia. The Maji were probably Babylonian scholars, using manuscripts captured during the exile (when Daniel was taken). --DeknMike (talk) 15:24, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Capitalization or no

Discuss at Talk:Jewish_messianism#Capitalization_or_no

In certain articles, the term "messiah" is given capitalization -in what appears to be particular to the Jewish messiah concept, to discern between Jewish and non-Jewish conceptions of "messiah." I think this presents a bit of a POV issue, as using capitals for the Jewish concept serves to give a kind of title to one particular conception. Ostensibly, it can be argued that the Jewish moshiach is a titular post one which deserves a titular capitalization. But we don't for example give title to a non-existent king as "King," unless that position has been filled and we are referring to a particular being. Discuss -Stevertigo (t | log | c) 00:24, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

IMHO, as a concept, lower case is appropriate. When ascribing messiahship to an individual figure, that faith would capitalize it.--DeknMike (talk) 16:44, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Why is Hinduism here

Messiahy is a Hebrew word. It entered many other languages - but how and when did it enter the Hindi language? Slrubenstein | Talk 00:16, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

The whole Hinduism section is unsourced and appears to be WP:OR. Jayjg (talk) 22:31, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
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