Talk:Metaphysical poets

this is all lies —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.232.79.146 (talk) 14:43, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Metaphysicial poet sometimes has a capital M and sometimes lower case within this article. In some of the cases, it should be lower-case because it's not referring to this school of poets; in some because it in a quotation (to whose author the use of lower-case is thereby attributed), but if it should be capitalized, then it should be done consistently, and if lower-case is used, that should be consistent. Michael Hardy 20:58, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

I changed them all to lower case. One runs across both—personally I feel that the name shouldn't be capitalized since it's not a formal, or even particularly well-defined, group (unlike, say, the Beats). If someone disagrees, that's OK too, but please be consistent and please comment on this page to explain your rationale. Chick Bowen 21:50, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, I just looked at the Beat article and that one is also hopelessly inconsistent. Ah well. Chick Bowen 21:51, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

John Milton

I'm no expert in the field, so i can't contribute to the article, but I'm pretty sure John Milton belongs in this article in some shape or form. I say this because my English Literature textbook categorizes him as a metaphysical poet. If anyone who is knowledgeable in this field could add him to the article, I'm sure it would help to make the article more complete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.102.54.89 (talk) 23:11, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Robert Southwall

Saint Robert Southwell is arguably the founder of the Metaphysical school of poetry, a designation argued by his biographer, The Rev. Scott R. Pilarz, in his definitive study: Robert Southwell and the Mission of Literature, 1561-1595: Writing Reconciliation. Whether he merits this particular designation, he definitely ranks among the "most important" of them.

Adriano Bulla

I've removed the reference to Adriano Bulla, for two reasons. First, since the article is explicitly about the seventeeth century poetic movement, it seems erroneous to include a 'twenty-first century' poet; this is, however, only a minor point. Second, the link that is drawn between Bulla and the metaphysical poets is based solely on an online review of Bulla's poetry. Frankly, it smacks of Wikiganda (and if that ain't a phrase, it is now). I don't think that this can thus be counted as a reliable source - I'd be happy to replace the lost lines, if a proper reference can be found. 91.125.50.12 (talk) 20:30, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

the metaphysical poets use of nature imagery

"Their poetry diverged from the style of their times, containing neither images of nature nor allusions to classical mythology, as were common.[5] " This is a quotation from the one of the subsections, "Characteristics". This is not true, as anyone who has read any Vaughan will know that his poetry is completely saturated with nature imagery. Google his collection Silex Scintillans to see the repetition of the images of 'dew' and 'flowers', and more generally anything ranging from springs, hills, trees, and just about any other image the mind can conjure. Herbert was also quite frequent in his use of nature imagery. For just one example, one may examine the way he uses the flower to symbolise death in "Life" or "The Flower" or many of the other poems in which the image is reused. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.126.21.75 (talk) 04:43, 6 December 2010 (UTC)