Talk:Mexico national football team

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Pablo Barrera

Someone changed Barrera's club to Calcio's Lazio. This is false, he still plays for UNAM. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.212.238.143 (talk) 17:03, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Mexico managers

I have changed the "Notable managers" section and it no longer reads as such. Instead it is a list of Mexico's managers throughout the years. I gathered most of the data from the FEMEXFUT web-site, but obviously there are still a few gaps to be filled. Please feel free to add onto the list in order to make it as comprehensive as possible. .cosme. (talk) 17:43, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

WP:FOOTY and WT:FOOTY

I would also like to encourage everyone to read the ongoing discussion at WP:FOOTY as well as WT:FOOTY. The issue[[File: ]] I'd like to point to is regarding the role of "Notable Players" in Wikipedia articles. Though there are exceptions, such as a list based on quantifiable qualities, a list without justification might not be acceptable. So if you strongly believe that a player is notable in the history of the Mexican national football team, I encourage you to specify in the article's text the reasons for his notability. For now I'll leave the list as it is, but I plan on making substantial edits to it over time, just as I did to the "Notable managers" section which is now more of a list of managers through the years..cosme. (talk) 17:53, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

On Player Notability: There are simply too many players on this list without justification for their notablility. If you think a player is truly notable in the course of the Mexican national football team's history, I encourage you to incorporate that player and his role and impact on the Mexican team in the main article. There's no need to include players that only had one or two caps with the senior squad, regardless of their club or managerial accomplishments at other times. There are better means to discuss a player's notability. There are quantifiable accomplishments that verify that individuals notability, such as caps, goals, minutes played, etc. .cosme. (talk) 15:51, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Expand and Include Sections

I encourage everyone and anyone to add to this article! We need more history and more information on the major tournaments the team has participated in as well as changes to the structure of the team throughout the decades. Information on the kits, coaching changes, etc. would be great to have. My knowledge is limited, but I think that the changes I've made have gone toward improving the article greatly..cosme. (talk) 18:02, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

The Cachirules Affaire

Hello to all.

I desire to share with all this information for discussion.

In the program of ESPN in Spanish “Fútbol Picante” that abords the Mexican soccer in the edition of March 20,2008 they touched the subject of the Cachirules since it was in that day turned twenty years of the scandal. The program tells that in January 1988 FIFA it publishes in his official organ of diffusion "FIFA News" an order taken by the Executive Committee ordering to all the national federations that all the members of the national equipment that took part in all matches and competitions organized by FIFA verified with true documents that fulfilled the required ages to compete. After the Olympic Mexican national selection obtains his qualification to the Olympic Tournament of soccer of Seoul in Honduras, the journalist Antonio Moreno knowing the FIFA disposition makes a work of information where discovers that several members of the equipment fake their age declaring to the autorities in charge of the area of CONCACAF to organize the competition that had less years of age to be able to compete in the match that was verified, after publishing in the Mexican nationwide sport newspaper “Esto”, by the same CONCACAF´s autorities. The program also says that in June of 1988 in a special meeting of FIFA in its seat in Zurich, Switzerland the Executive Committee decided to suspend to Mexico by two years (from 1988 to 1990) prevailing to him of its classification to the Olympic match in favour to Guatemala that was the main idea but also preventing to participate him in the eliminatory tournaments of 1990 FIFA World Cup, 1989 FIFA u-21 World Cup in Saudi Arabia Bicko2008 (talk) 00:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing up this dreadful memory. But I agree that it needs to be addressed in the main article. I'm not well versed on the issue and controversy, but if no one else takes charge, I'll look into it eventually and add it to the article. Thanks for the great input! .cosme. (talk) 18:58, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Mexico Head-to-Head Record

Ok, I've started a page for Mexico's international head-to-head record: Mexico national football team record. I'm just informing everyone about it. Feel free to add results that took place before 1929, because thats when Mexico joined FIFA. I used FIFA's head-to-head tool to find all the info. Also, if anyone wants to add a section to Mexico's page, please go ahead. I feel it shows the national side's strength more clearly. Thanks. Lordoffireanddeath26 (talk) 03:34, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Mexico:History

I propose rewriting the entire history section. I feel that its too broken up and would probably benefit from continuity and fluidity. So within a few days, I think I'll be able to revise most of it. But before I do anything too drastic, I was wondering what everyone else thinks. Thanks in advance. MxcnKing926 (talk) 21:41, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I've begun work on the article as a separate Word doc, but I'm having some trouble finding sources. Especially about the early history since those in the article lead nowhere. So unless someone can find credible sources, I think it's best to remove the information. MxcnKing926 (talk) 22:50, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Assuming victories

I do not feel it is in the best interest of Mexican Soccer to assume that a victory will be had over an opponent, especially in a tournament setting. It is being assumed that Mexico will beat Costa Rica on the 23rd of July and will certainly play in the Gold Cup Final. Unless someone has a time machine, the outcome of the match has yet to be determined. Please change this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.123.95.193 (talk) 19:17, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Y Done. Mxcn_King_926 19:54, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

ICONS

Notwithstanding the arguments about this page having too many icons and looking pretty garish IMO, the icon used for the FIFA Confederations Cup and FIFA U-17 World Cup cup is a specific icon for the FIFA World Cup and us such should not be used here. Please refer the guideline at MOS:ICON#Do_not_repurpose_icons_beyond_their_legitimate_scope--ClubOranje^T 00:35, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

This error appears to have been fixed, but some editors seem insistent that the articles needs images of trophies and medal, which I feel really detracts from the text. The only national football team article to acheive featured article status is Germany women's national football team, and this does not use these excessive and unwieldy little images. The standard of that article is what should be aimed at. Dancarney (talk) 07:16, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Team call ups

How about just official game call-ups to be included on the list, I mean for some friendly games they call up dudes that will never play any official games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.212.30.23 (talk) 02:35, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes I think the list should only list players who have been called up for official matches. GoPurple'nGold₂₄ 02:24, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Friendlies vs New Zealand and Netherlands

Please! Stop removing these matches! These will be played! Source for the New Zealand match: FIFA.com: Kiwis to face Mexico

Source for the Netherlands match: Goal.com

Is that proof!?--Kanzler31 (talk) 23:01, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

The Mexican Football Federation (FMF) has not officially announced them, yes the New Zealand Football Federation and FIFA have but not the FMF.

Source:http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/futbol/copa-mundial/nota?id=949479 GoPurple'nGold₂₄ 02:22, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Chile at Azteca

Re-adding the Chile game rumored to take place at the Estadio Azteca in the unconfirmed games, as both the FMF and CFF say they may play at the Azteca this spring.

Source: Goal.com--Kanzler31 (talk) 21:18, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Please don't add rumors, even if they have a source, Wikipedia is not a place for rumors. No matches have been confirmed by FM so far, there have been some games against New Zealand, Netherlands, Bolivia and Ecuador that have been announced but they haven't been confirmed. GoPurple'nGold₂₄ 01:46, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Should retired players be included?

To avoid future reverts on this topic to this article after its protection expiries, we should discuss if this information should go or not. I start saying that no. Wikipedia is not a memorial site and adding "players who have been called up to mexico [sic] in the last 12 months, not for players who can be call for the team." is factually wrong, absurd and useless. Why we will include Guillermo Franco a year when the header is titled "recent call-ups"? Encyclopedic value = 0. Tbhotch* ^{۩ ۞} 05:22, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

<------- THAT'S WRONG WITH ALL RESPECT THIS LAS TOPIC ARE WRONG, THE LAS 12 MONTHS IS A YAER, SO Guillermo Franco AND Óscar Pérez Rojas SHOULD BE IN THE LIST ALTHOUGH THEY ARE NO MORE IN THE NATIONAL TEAM.

Retired players should not be added, in other national team articles such as France, Italy and Germany, their retired players are not added. There is no point in adding the retired players since they will not play for the national team again unless they come out of national team retirement. GoPurple'nGold₂₄ 22:16, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

And why they should be included? You argue that we have to include them but why? How this build a correct and less trivialencyclopedia? Tbhotch* ^{۩ ۞} 06:10, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Differentiate title from Mexico women's national football team.

Differentiate title from Mexico women's national football team, such as Mexico men's national football team ... 97.87.29.188 (talk) 20:48, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Parallel with Mexico women's national football team. 99.190.80.245 (talk) 08:04, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

No because other Men articles are not named "men's" national team other than the United States, for example the German National team article is not called Germany men's national football team. GoPurple'nGold₂₄ 05:26, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Concacaf Gold Cup Record

It seems that somebody put México as a host in 1996,1998 and 2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.118.123.219 (talk) 03:06, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Concacaf Championship 1977 - Winner or not?

According to FIFA here, Mexico didn't win the Concacaf Championship 1977, but in the article this competition is mentioned. So which is the truth? --VAN ZANT (talk) 19:16, 21 August 2011 (UTC)