Talk:Mikhail Gorbachev

Money

How much money does he have? How does Gorbachev make his living? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.101.35.7 (talk) 13:23, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

He does commercials for Pizza Hut, Louis Vuitton, and German Railways. Zloyvolsheb (talk) 08:27, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Accolades and Prizes

It is ironic that a man seen as the cause (inability to prevent the crisis)of fall of USSR was given Nobel peace prize and other prizes..(might have happened prior to dissolution of the Union but is very close to the date of dissolution). Clearly these Nobel prizes are given only for what western europe considers peace. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.138.120.65 (talk) 10:17, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Photo

It's not a very good photo of the man. Any chance of a better one?  SmokeyTheCat  •TALK• 09:36, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

I saw a picture of him taken in 2008. It was on this article and even used for the front picture for some time, but then somebody must have changed it back to the previous picture of Gorbachev and removed the one taken in 2008 from the article. I am not absoluteley sure about this, I'll have to check edit history first.--Mart572 (talk) 04:48, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Someone keeps putting back the older, fuzzier photo. Please discuss here before replacing the photo again. Rees11 (talk) 21:53, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

This article really ought to be protected, the picture of Gorbachev should not be a foot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.157.210.28 (talk) 18:02, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Watchlist

Could somebody who cares about this article please watchlist it and watch for vandalism? I just spent about 15 minutes fixing some old stuff that would have taken a few seconds if spotted immediately. (I'm already maintaining several hundred neuroscience articles and don't really want to take on new ones.) Looie496 (talk) 03:43, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Picture

It is from at least 1993 and it looks like somone turned up a screen grab of him speaking to the USSR from the Kremlin on Soviet TV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Duffy2032 (talk • contribs) 14:55, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Adding to my previous comment (sorry I forgot to sign it), he does speeches at colleges here in the US all the time, theres gotta be a picture of one of those out there instead of this.--Duffy2032 (talk) 14:58, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

You would think so but, alas, one has not been found. This is the best solution that we have. Happyme22 (talk) 17:07, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Was versus is

Normally, on Wikipedia articles, when the lede reads Name was blah blah blah, you know the subject is dead. Gorbachev isn't dead. Maybe "Gorachev is a former... blah blah..."? 66.224.70.106 (talk) 23:21, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Gorbachev had no successors in his political offices

The CIS is not a sovereign state, therefore not a successor to the USSR. The USSR (in theory) has 15 successors states. GoodDay (talk) 22:57, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

In otherwords: The CIS secretary is not the successor to the USSR General Secretary & the Presidency of Russia is not the successor to the USSR Presidency. GoodDay (talk) 23:00, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

The Commonwealth of Independent States article says the Creation Agreement (Соглашение) establishes the CIS as a "successor entity" to the USSR. I can't check the source because the web page is 404. But at least here in the US most people would not think of CIS as being the successor to the USSR, and would not consider, say, Russia and Ukraine to be part of the same "state." So I'm fine with this change. Rees11 (talk) 02:06, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

The CIS is not a sovereign state, therefore not a successor. GoodDay (talk) 16:22, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, what do you expect from the globalization idiots, who also call Europe a state. They will only STFU when there is only one global country left, that country decides to hate his kind, and he doesn’t have anywhere to flee to anymore. Fuckin’ cattle they are. — 88.77.152.22 (talk) 21:57, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes he DOES have a successor, Since the Russian Federation as an entity, and by UN definition, is the international successor (read: replacement) of the USSR, wouldn't that make Boris Yeltsin the successor? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.149.99.154 (talk) 07:49, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Gorbachev had no successor as USSR President. Yelstin was President of the Russian Federation. These wer 2 different offices. GoodDay (talk) 14:46, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Since the Russian Federation is the legal successor state of the USSR, Gorbachev's successor was Yeltsin. This isn't an instance where one nation was destroyed and then another later created in its place. The USSR government in the Kremlin simply ended one day, and the next day, that of Russia began. Jsc1973 (talk) 12:01, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

How to keep an NPOV

Given that Gorbachev is generally credited with the move towards democracy, and won the Nobel peace prize etc, it seems to me reasonable, to give a balanced picture, to say much more about his political life in the sixties and seventies. What was his attitude to the Russian interventions in Hungary, in Czechoslovakia in 1968, to the Russian war in Afghanistan etc? Johncmullen1960 (talk) 07:10, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Bibliography

I may be wrong but I get the impression that all the books quoted are about one particular period in his life, and the only book to talk about his whole life is .... his own autobiography! This needs fixing,IMHO. Johncmullen1960 (talk) 07:12, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Name

The title says 'Gorbachev', The full name says 'Gorbachyov'. The latter is more accurate (Горбачёв, not Горбачeв). Anyhow, it should be the same everywhere, and clarification should be added to the article under 'Name'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.182.0.21 (talk) 18:48, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Please, see Wikipedia:Romanization_of_Russian#People for the Wikipedia convention on this. In brief, "Gorbachev" should be used as this is the form which Gorbachev uses in his English-language works and also the form generally used in the English-language media. Spacepotato (talk) 20:15, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Why No section on Criticism of Gorbachov?

Why is there no section on criticism of Gorbachov ?Gorbachov is regarded by communists and anti imperialists as a traitor,Judas and scab but the article makes no mention of this.Wikipedia comes across as right wing liberal —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.194.44.92 (talk) 15:33, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm sure he is regarded by some remaining communists, such as yourself, as a traitor. But we would need a source. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:44, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm just trying to figure out what a "right wing liberal" is. --Khajidha (talk) 20:53, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

@Khajidha: In European parlance, a right-wing liberal is (among others) someone advocating pure market capitalism with little to no state intervention, like e.g. the German Free Democratic Party (Germany). I suppose this is meant here. --Roentgenium111 (talk) 14:38, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, in American parlance the two terms are used to denote two different (virtually opposite) positions. --Khajidha (talk) 23:32, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Agree with comment; personally, I admire Gorbachev, but I have some very open-minded Russian friends, who can't help but feel he may have caused Russia and the former Soviet Union in general more harm than good -- Spettro9 (talk) 02:52, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Nobel prize for...

It's written in the preamble: "Gorbachev's attempts at reform as well as summit conferences with United States President Ronald Reagan and his reorientation of Soviet strategic aims contributed to the end of the Cold War, ended the political supremacy of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU), and led to the dissolution of the Soviet Union. For these efforts, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1990". From this passage one could think that Gorbachev was awarded for dissolution of his own country, kind of tricky. --91.77.121.221 (talk) 09:20, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

He basically was. Zloyvolsheb (talk) 05:44, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

New Subsection

I created a new subsection of the 'Post presidency' section: 'Criticism of the Vladimir Putin's government'. It didn't seem to fit in exactly where it was, so while I was adding some of his more recent criticism of Putin, I just spun it off into a subsection.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 18:24, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

New World Order and Global Government

Gorbachev seems to call for a global soviet style government.

http://www.mgr.org/sect17.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.33.220 (talk) 00:12, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

UFO connection (UFOs, UAP, UAPs, USOs)

Can we please add to the article what connections Gorbachev had to comments about UFOs, possibly related to USA President Ronald Reagan, and Wiki- links to any "main" articles about that?

Thanks!

Misty MH (talk) 09:39, 15 December 2011 (UTC)