Talk:Moab
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source: the public domain Smith's Bible Dictionary, found at http://www.studylight.org/dic/sbd/view.cgi?word=moab&action=Lookup Note the copyright notice: "these files are public domain"
Edited to remove some anachronisms, framing text added.
This is a classic example of why I believe a 19th century encyclopedia with a religious agenda is a poor source of information. The Moabites were a historical people. Their existence is attested to by numerous archeological findings, most notably the Mesha Stele, which describes the Moabite victory over Omri king of Israel. Israelites and Moabites had a complex relationship, as I hinted to with the Ruth reference. They were both Semitic peoples, who spoke virtually identical languages. They fought, but they also mingled. The biblical narrative has a clear agenda, when it describes the Moabites (generally as rivals). That should be described, of course. After all, that is the main reason the Moabites are known today--and they are known: a town in Utah is named after them. However, the ancient people known as Moabites obviously had a very different perspective on that relationship. We are not here to give the biblical perspective, but a historical/archaeological perspective (no matter how limited), with references to the Bible as one ancient source (and useful) source in understanding who the Moabites were. Danny I agree ! And the page still needs cleanup today ! I added quote to the phrase "promised land" which was used in a way that suggests the land actually *was* promised. The text suggests the biblical origin of the Moabites, as incestuous descendants of a nephew of Abraham, is real. Nobel prize 4 peace 00:54, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
"Unto the 10th generation" should be read as "EVEN unto the 10th generation" as in "Not even 10 generations from the time of this writing shall you let them in" as a way of saying "No generations at all". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.82.106.7 (talk) 09:31, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
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[edit] Wrong on Reuben
See Kings II 10:32ff, it was Aram under Hazael not David. 4.249.198.165 (talk) 16:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Wrong on Omri
- The Moabites did not defeat Omri- the Mesha Stele clearly states that Omri defeated them. Mesha is talking about a victory over Omri's unnamed son. -RomeW
Should this be a disambiguation page for the various Moab entries?
- done, but kept this page as primary meaning, so Moab (disambiguation). Rd232 17:38, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Archaeological evidence
Anybody working on this page interested in the archaeological evidence for Iron Age Moab? Bporter615 22:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)bporter615
[edit] Deleted external links
External link or links have recently been deleted by User:Calton as "horrible Tripod pages which add little information, are full of ads, and fail WP:EL standards." No better external links were substituted. Readers may like to judge these deleted links for themselves, by opening Page history. --Wetman 14:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] capital conflict:Is it Dibon or Kerak?
different sections of the article give different answers.130.86.14.25 (talk) 05:09, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Need REAL sources
What is to be known about the Moabites' history outside of the Bible, what is just a bunch of fairytales? Any real datas could be presented, please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.133.27.75 (talk) 19:55, 18 July 2009 (UTC) ==
- While I shudder at refs with "comp. also" notes in them, the article does include links to artifacts that are fairly clearly Moabite. Hcobb (talk) 19:40, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
[edit] Mistake in quote from Joshua
The quote from Joshua involves the tribe of Reuven and Gad who settled on the eastern side of the Jordan. They built what appeared to be an altar, even though sacrifices were restricted to the Tabernacle. That is what caused the other tribes to almost start a civil war until the facts were explained. It does not belong in this posting. Sabba Hillel (talk) 19:15, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
[edit] Poor cronology
Neither in the introduction nor in the history section are there any time references, not even centuries. Surely this would be possible to supply. __meco (talk) 16:05, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
