Talk:Mohenjo-daro

Mohenjo-Daro and Dholavira

There are many pictures on free websites and I request the readers of this talk to add the pictures and links. Some pictures and links are added on Dholavira.

vkvora 18:10, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Tags

It is being suggested and stressed that all articles about historical sites in South Asia which are not in the Republic of India should be tagged using {{WP SouthAsia}} instead of {{WP India}}. {{WP India}} contains references to present day India, including but not limited to the Flag of India, which represent India the country rather than the whole region. Using this tag for those sites which are not in India is deemed strongly offensive and an indirect territorial claim over the country of the site. Any article can have tags representing the country where the site is located along with {{WP SouthAsia}} to emphasize the importance of the site in the history of whole region including all countries. Szhaider 20:46, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

PS: The same suggestion is applied to the personalities with historical importance for the entire South Asia.

so why there's there a pak flag there? Pak didn't exist back then. Your flag is strongly offensive. Take it off. Make it neutral. it's greener than ireland.--D-Boy 05:26, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Currently, the only Pakistani flag is in reference to the UNESCO state party. This means the present day country responsible for the site. True Pakistan did not exist during the IVC, its presence on the page is historically irrelevent. I dont see a neutrality issue here.

Even it is not inda it is Sindh (indus valley)

Then it is Sindh Better to use Flag of sindh rather then Indian? why india? Read again ,there was sindh called as indus valley so better for u both to use sindh falg then india or pakistan flag u do not agree.khalidkhoso.

You guys did not read my suggestion carefully. You tried to read it in a glance and rushed to respond. Here is the part you must be interested in:

"Any article can have tags representing the country where the site is located along with {{WP SouthAsia}}"

Szhaider 11:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

PS: By the way I had a queer belief that Admins were supposed to be neutral in a dispute, rather than becoming a part of it and taking sides. May be they are supposed to take sides. Who knows? Szhaider 12:19, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Where did the computer Generated Picture Go?

There used to be a very beautiful Computer-generated picture of Moen Jo Daro on this page. Where did it go? Who removed it and why? Kindly let me know the reasons.

Aursani 18:08, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

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english translation from mohenjodaro

I'm not taking exception here . . . I'm just trying my memory . . . I lived in Sind many years ago and I visited Mohenjodaro many times when I lived in Sind. Before I went to school, before I was 6 years old, I spoke Sindhi and some other languages, including Urdu, Brahui & Gujurati, all of which I learned in Ratodero, a village I mention now for linguistic reasons: Mohen = dead; jo = of; and daro or dero = place; i.e., wherefrom the "mound" of which the article speaks? I'm just wondering. Kutay-jo-kabar = dog of grave, or, Dog's Grave . . . a mountain peak rising 7,000 feet out of the desert plains and within the realm (circa 1971) of the Chandio Baluch, not too far (west) from Mohenjodaro. "Mound" may have some public relations value when communicating with the western readers, tho' I doubt it; I'm just wondering about the origins of the translation to "mound" rather than "place" . . . that's all . . . All of which is also to say: I can still remember what the Sindhi "jo" means in english; and I can still remember what Sindhi "dero" or "daro" means: but, what does "Rato" mean? I cannot remember . . . Will someone please help me? (I have mostly good memories of Ratodero in the 1950's!) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dfaddleton (talk • contribs) 05:31, 29 April 2007 (UTC).

Is it Kutey-jo-kabar or Kutey-ji-Kabar (kabar being feminine)? That was just a degress. I read Mohenjodaro as Moyan-jo-dero, that would be 'camp of the dead'. Am I wrong? (I had Sindhi friends in childhood and live in Delhi with Punjabis) Aupmanyav 06:17, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Adjective form of "Mohenjo-daro"?

Does anybody here know what you would call something deriving from Mohenjo-daro or a person from Mohenjo-daro? My guess is Mohenjo-darian, but that's just a thought-- though it may not have an adjective in English.  ~ magbatz 23:10, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

John Linnell of They Might Be Giants uses the term Mohenjo-daron in the song The Mesopotamians.

This is my last stick of gum
I'm going to cut it up so everybody else gets some
Except for Ashurbanipal who says my haircut makes me look like a Mohenjo-daron

Hey, Ashurbanipal,
I'm a Mesopotamian

~ Mailman-zero 18:49, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that's why I was asking actually-- seeing if he just guessed on what the word would be. ~ magbatz 21:36, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

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The Mystery of Mohenjo-Daro

        Mohenjodaro's Disappearance

     Mohenjodaro thrived for 800 years, from around 2700 B.C.E to 1900 B.C.E. But, afterwards, Mohenjodaro disappeared. Scientists didn't find the ruins of Mohenjodaro ('Hill of the Dead') until 1922.

Scientists have drawn several theories as to how Moehnjodaro disappeared. They believe that the hostile invaders that swept through Moehnjodaro had created the disappearance, meaning that empires or warriors from Asia entered India and attacked Mohenjodaro. Others believe that nature had caused the disappearance. There had been many floods and earthuakes in the area nearby 1900 B.C.E. There could also have been the fact that the Sarasvati River dried up and that the Indus River changed its course. Because of this, people could've went to the Ganges River for their water supply. Whatever the reason, the mystery of Mohenjodaro still is yet to be solved.

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Granary and Great Bath

There seems to be a lack of information on the Granary and Bath. In both the Wheeler and Siddiqui sectors of the citadel mound, there is little mention of theories outside of Sir Mortimer Wheeler's 1966 assesment of the civic structures. I've added some information regarding recent work done by Jonathan Mark Kenoyer, though there is still much to add. Also very little information on this page is cited though seems to stem from Wheeler's Civilizations of the Indus Valley and beyond. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.60.251.46 (talk) 05:32, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

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trolling here?

hi, just found a bizarre sentence at the end of the "artifacts" paragraph : it says : "There was also indoor plumbing and well paved and drained streets. The city was in a grid pattern unlike Ur where many thieves and other bad people got away with crimes and no good. Mohenjo-Daro also had tall watchtowers instead of walls(again unlike Ur) to watch instead of protect the city." which does not seem to fit here.

Hope i did not put this in a really wrong place... 81.255.233.236 (talk) 13:16, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Melted bricks/ancient atomic blast

Does anyone know the origin of David Davenport's claims of a nuclear blast detroying Mohenjo-daro thousands of years ago? There are claims all over the internet and they all seem to be cut-and-pasted. Wonder if there was a shred of evidence that was blown out of proportion or just made up whole-cloth. Also, is there anything in the Vedas or other ancient literature that sounds like atomic blasts or are the modern mythology people making up quotes there too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.241.187.32 (talk) 03:12, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

A newsgroup and thus not a reliable source, but it does give some sources about the archaeology of the site and what may answer your question. [1]. Dougweller (talk) 14:52, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

There are numerous weapons in the Mahabharata (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahabharata) and other ancient Indian documents that could be described as science-fiction. They usually have the suffix astra (Brahmastra for example, cause of infertility in humans and animals, ecological decline, death of plants etc)Cerumol2 (talk) 15:37, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

This is relevant: [2] Dougweller (talk) 16:22, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

The show Ancient Aliens has brought this topic up several times and I'd like to see more scientific evidence on the subject i.e. was a radiation from a meteor or radiation from a bomb. The experts could easily clear up this subject. If is was an atomic bomb, it would clearly re-write history of the world as we know it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.214.179 (talk) 16:41, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

There's no verified claims of radiation, no one is going to spend time and money trying to disprove something that has no scientific evidence behind it. Dougweller (talk) 16:55, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Alternative spellings names

I reverted the edit " The name Mohenjo-Daro is itself debated as it is sometimes also referred to as Mound of Mohan or Mound of Krishna."<ref>[http://www.mohenjodaro.net/mohenjodaroessay.html http://www.mohenjodaro.net/mohenjodaroessay.html]</ref>" The relevant passage from the source says "There are several different spellings of the site name and in this article we have chosen to use the most common form, Mohenjo-daro (the Mound of Mohen or Mohan), though other spellings are equally valid: Mohanjo-daro (Mound of Mohan =Krishna), Moenjo-daro (Mound of the Dead), Mohenjo-daro, Mohenjodaro or even Mohen-jo-daro." I suggest we just add: "There are various spellings for the site with different meanings. Mohenjo-daro means the Mound of Mohen or Mohan, Alternative uses are Mohanjo-daro (Mound of Mohan =Krishna), Moenjo-daro (Mound of the Dead), Mohenjo-daro, Mohenjodaro or Mohen-jo-daro." Dougweller (talk) 16:01, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Poking my nose in here, as I just noticed the revert. Yes, the source offers variations, not debate. I think Doug's version works fine. Haploidavey (talk) 16:08, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

I think the addition of various spellings is essential. It is not so much a question of a debate to have this inclusion as it is about presenting a well-rounded approach to an ancient site that has cultural and historic significance. "Mohan" or "Mohen" is a name and its connection to Krishna is mentioned in several on and offline articles. It should be included in this article. Sam8477 (talk) 09:59, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

I think you misunderstood Haploidavey, who was just saying that the source doesn't talk about a debate so the article shouldn't either unless there is a new source that does. I was hoping you'd either agree with my wording or suggest an alternative, if you are happy with mine you are free to add it or I will later. Dougweller (talk) 10:53, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

I misinterpreted Haploidavey thinking he meant no changes should be made. Agreed no debates should be mentioned here. And, Doug your wording is fine. I'll add it now. Sam8477 (talk) 15:22, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Meteorological trivia removed from lede...

... is now pasted here. See article edit summary for reasons. Haploidavey (talk) 13:55, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

The highest temperature ever recorded in Pakistan, 53.5 °C (128.3 °F), was recorded here on 26 May 2010.Guardian.co.uk It is also the highest reliably measured temperature in the continent of Asia, and the fourth highest temperature recorded on earth.[3]

Was the City Wiped Out by a Meteorite Strike?

Pop-TV says (UFO launched) atomic weapons, but a very large (or extremely high velocity) meteorite strike can cause a naturally-occurring nuclear explosion, including radiation fallout and vitrified glass.

69.171.160.75 (talk) 16:13, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Persistent vandalism

This page seems to be a perennial target for IP vandals, who are constantly blanking either individual sections or the whole article. Could someone with the necessary privileges please look into this? Protecting it so only autoconfirmed users can edit it might be a good idea, seeing as the vandals keep coming back. Michaelmas1957 (talk) 17:24, 24 October 2011 (UTC)