Talk:Naqshbandi

Purported Association of Militants with Naqshbandiya

I removed a section on "Perceived Militancy" because it does not belong on a page that outlines an entire sect or sufi order. There is a page called "Islamic Terrorism" on which militant or fanatical groups and their purported links with Naqshbandi can be mentioned in a more NPOV context.

Note by way of contrast that WP entries on Jewish terrorism (e.g., Stern Gang) or Christian terrorism (e.g., anti-abortion violence) are relatively specific pages that explain how militancy was an integral part of particular groups.

In the case of Naqshbandi, the linkage of militancy is based on an identity claim by certain people some 700 years after the group's founding. In light of political implications stirred by the War on Terror, describing such a claim on the primary WP page about Naqshbandiya raises "guilt by association" POV possibilities for any WP users who come to this page via other linkages, such as Muslim poets or mystics who are labeled "Naqshbandi" on their respective WP pages. Martindo (talk) 09:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Tauheedia Naqshbandia Branch

Hazarat Khawaja Abdul Hakeem Ansari wrote in his book narates that he started the Oath of allegiance in 1950 during his stay at Karachi. After three years, he started the separate order of spiritual discipline in 1953 during his stay at Karachi. It is not the branch of any already existing spiritual discipline or chain. He settled at Bannu and met Hazarat Abdul Sattar, his wife and daughter after January 1955. He declared Hazarat Abdul Sattar Khan as his successor in 1968 subject to his death. He wrote and registered his will in the court of law that his spiritual discipline will not be heridatory. He died on January 23, 1977 and Hazarat Abdul Sattar Khan controlled his order.
For reference pleace consult the book: Abdul Hakeem Ansari, Khawaja (1967). Chiragh-e-Rah (جراغ راه). Gujranwala: Markaz Tameer-e-Millat. and his will written on May 1975 and got registered with signatures and the signatures of witnesses.
So, it is requested not to consider his discipline Toheedia/ Tauheedia as Tauheedia Naqshbandia Branch. It is a misconception and mess up the facts.
Syed Rahmat Ullah Shah (talk) 20:05, 18 February 2010 (UTC) Syed Rahmat Ullah Shah
Incharge,
Sohail Iftikhar Research Institute,
University of the Punjab,
Lahore, Pakistan.

Rewrite needed for objectivity

This article is completely unsuited to an encyclopedia; it is essentially a promotional piece written entirely from the inside point of view. It needs a complete rewrite from an objective and historical perspective, with all the POV material removed or rewritten. Languagehat (talk) 18:08, 21 December 2010 (UTC)