Talk:Nonduality
Can we separate these 2 topics (east/west)? Azazin 23:48, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- It seems to me that even though the two topics are now separated into Nonduality and Nondualism, the names of the articles themselves are still ambiguous. Perhaps the pages should be named Nondualism (religion) (or Nonduality (religion)) and Nondualism (philosophy)? --Conover 18:35, Apr 5, 2004 (UTC)
What would happen if I do a search on "Nonduality" or "Nondualism"? --Azazin 20:11, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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- Well, in this case you would be directed to a disambiguation page we created. Actually, though, I have a better idea -- since I believe that in Western philosophy, "nondualism" is synonymous with "monism", we could just add a disambiguation notice here that points to monism. Which I will now do, if you are willing. --Conover 00:20, Apr 8, 2004 (UTC)
I have no problem with that, but the fellow who added the section that I transferred to Nondualism might (a case of progressive deletion?) ;) And I notice that Monism has a somewhat contentious history. --Azazin 01:14, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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- Well, all that information is (or should be) contained under monism, since there was nothing on nondualism that differentiated it from monism. And yeah, monism itself definitely needs some work. --Conover 02:43, Apr 8, 2004 (UTC)
It would be nice if you could add a link to each religion from their summary -- in addition to the header "Buddhism", add, "Nondual themes in Buddhism are..." etc. This will help readers find information on traditions with which they are not familiar. In particular, Nagualism seems particularly obscure -- you might want to summarize Casteneda's relationship to the tradition in that section. — Adam Conover † 19:46, Apr 8, 2004 (UTC)
- I was linking just the first occurrence, additional links no problem. Not quite sure what to do with Castaneda. He's not representative of some larger collection, but has used terms like "sorcery", "shamanism" and finally "nagualism" to describe the tradition he fell into. (Or maybe he just made it up.) I thought to include it, because it may be of interest to people familiar with his books, but perhaps it's not sufficiently general to warrant inclusion. I'm also thinking it may work as a sidebar (if that's possible). --Azazin 01:03, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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- Well I've done a sidebar for Castaneda next to Related Topics. Don't know how that sits with the Wiki policies.--Azazin 01:57, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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- Personally, I like it! It looks good, the content is spot on, and the sidebar format is a visual clue that it's not as central material as it could be. Frankly, I think we could see more sidebars like this throughout the Wikipedia. (Of course, others may disagree.) — Adam Conover † 02:28, Apr 9, 2004 (UTC)
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Guess I'm done for now. Thanks for the suggestions.--Azazin 05:30, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Great article, but I think it's important to emphasize that nondualism is not a tenet shared by all Buddhists. Theravada denies the principle that samsara and nibbana are identical, and it denies nondualism generally. So I'll add a little qualifier and specify that nonduality is a principle of Mahayana Buddhism.
Theli 93 06:10, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
