Talk:Women in the Bible

Regarding "There are no women in heaven"

As much as I'd love for that claim to be valid, the word used in Luke 20:35-36 for "sons" is the Greek word "huioi", which can also refer to a mix of sons and daughters, which is why most translations say "children" instead of "sons".

Galatians 3:26-28 is one example of where "huioi" refers to a mix of sons and daughters:

26 You are all [huioi] of God through faith in Christ Jesus, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dtfinch (talk • contribs) 06:54, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Eve from Adam's rib

I'm sure that the interpretation of Eve being made from Adam's as an indication of women's subordination is not the only interpretation of the passage. I think that it is also thought to show equality between sexes as they are made from the same flesh. Does anyone know any more about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Variousvarious (talk • contribs) 09:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Deborah Dis'd

As much as the judge Deborah wanted the glory for the battle she did not get it. Boo Hoo. In Hebrews Chpt 11 the great faith hall of fame it was Barak that got the glory. Her feminist pride cost her the glory......LoL...Rofl —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.88.222.103 (talk) 02:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Your words are inaccurate. That verse you refer to talks about faith. Barak is considered to have had faith because he (eventually) went to war with Jabin despite his misgivings, trusting God to give him the victory. In fact, Judges 4 and 5 are a big lesson to the Israelites on how women (in the form of Deborah and Jael) are blessed by God and should be respected by men. Deborah does not appear to have been feminist or prideful.

IF you are a Christian you could be a bit more polite and less insulting.

Correct me if I am wrong

I do believe there are certain verses in the bible that support Mary Magdalene was a prostitute. One I remember but can't remember exact verse is the stoning incident where Jesus said (paraphrased) that only one who has not sinned, cast the first stone. Then, throughout it seems to be the same woman. There are also clear points of her sin.--68.103.153.82 (talk) 03:49, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Can I help you??

I have a website that gives more information on the topics covered here. The website is www.womeninthebible.net It has stories of 23 of the main women in the Old and New Testaments, with historical background, study group activities and useful links - which all sounds very worthy and dull I know, but check it out anyway. I think it could be useful to readers of this site. Please consider putting a link to it. MaryRoseWalker (talk) 02:56, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you but it is a personal website, and these generally can't be used unless they (unusually) are by a notable expert in the field. See WP:RS. I note that clicking on 'about the author' leads to the glossary. dougweller (talk) 07:02, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

I find this concerning as the author of this article bases some fairly major claims on content from that website. Possible neutrality issues? basalisk (talk) 21:37, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

move

since this is apparently written from a Christian perspective (and rather subjectively, I might add), perhaps the article should be moved to Women in the New Testament to answer to the existing Women in the Hebrew Bible. No need to have one article on "women in the OT" and one on "women in the OT and the NT". --dab (𒁳) 12:38, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

that is a really good idea Balance of paradox (talk) 15:31, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

This article's title implies that it is a list of individuals that are mentioned in the bible.

Is this article about what the bible says about women? If so, it should be merged with the "Bible" page.

Is this article about theologian’s opinions of what the bible says about women? Due to the many different beliefs of theologians there would be many opposing ideas, resulting in a chaotic article.

Either way, the article should be renamed to clearly state what it contains.

Balance of paradox (talk) 16:36, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Introduction issues.

I think there are major issues with the introduction to this article. Aside from the fact that the introduction appears to represent a biased view of the subject and bases many of its claims on inappropriate self-published material, it does not seem to be supported by the body of the article. Discussion required? basalisk (talk) 22:03, 15 September 2011

i think that this article needs to be balanced out a lot. i think that the bible basicly says that man and women are of equal value, they just have different strengths, weaknesses, needs, and goals. it is probably just a classic case of people thinking that “the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence”.

the intro states: "Women's roles in the history of Judaism and Christianity often were omitted or presented as stereotypes, 'as if all the women in the ancient world had been saints, whores, or invisible.'" this obviously is heavily biased. the bible is about women and men who stood out, not the average person.

i am sorry if i offended anyone by this statement, i am just trying to help balance out this article.Balance of paradox (talk) 16:23, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

paradise lost mistake

in the "Old Testament views on gender" section, this article states:

Eve's weakness has sometimes been blamed for causing Adam's fall, and thus for humanity's fall into original sin. This claim was made[citation needed] during the Middle Ages and was a subject in John Milton's classic epic, Paradise Lost.

the article on "paradise lost" says:

"The relationship between Adam and Eve is one of 'mutual dependence, not a relation of domination or hierarchy.'"

the "paradise lost" article also states that although they both sinned in eating the fruit, adam's sin was "bigger" because he did it knowingly.

Balance of paradox (talk) 20:10, 10 November 2011 (UTC)