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[edit] Untitled
Older issues:
- Talk:Killer whale/General archive 1
- Talk:Killer whale/Should the page be at Orca or Killer Whale (resolution: Orca (Dec 2003); Killer Whale (Jan 2009))
- Talk:Killer whale/Is it a dolphin, a whale, both?! (resolution: dolphin)
- Talk:Killer whale/Aug 2004-Apr 2006
- Talk:Killer whale/April 2006-May 2008
- Talk:Killer whale/May 2008-November 2009
[edit] WP:CETA capitalisation discussion
[edit] Killer Whale right term ?
Who decided to call this article about Orcas "Killer Whale". Thats sounds like in Kindergarden. Why not call the article about dogs "woof-woof" ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.7.19.216 (talk) 01:16, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Discussions on this issue started way back in 2002. See Talk:Killer whale/Should the page be at Orca or Killer Whale (which is linked to near the top of this page). --Avenue (talk) 01:39, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
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- And unlike calling a dog a "woof-woof", killer whale actually is another name for an orca. I prefer the term orca, but the name killer whale is used in books and scientific papers. --T H F S W (T · C · E) 17:26, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Killer whale is the common name used for the orca but in no way is it the name of the species. Orca is the dolphin's scientific name, thus for correctness of the article, the title should be Orca, not Killer whale.
- The scientific name of the species is Orcinus orca, not just Orca. A case could be made to use scientific names rather than common names for Wikipedia animal species, but consensus to date has been to use common names. Rlendog (talk) 20:44, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Killer whales are not actually whales, in fact, they are in the dolphin family. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.70.124.218 (talk) 06:42, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
How is it anything like calling the dog article "woof-woof". Calling this article "various clicking and chirping sounds" would be like that. Killer whale is a widely used name for the animal, and not just amongst young kids. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.148.242 (talk) 01:55, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
- Exactly, the better comparson in regards to this move would be moving dog to Canis lupus familiaris (the scientific name for the species and mot woof-woof. Even if that was the standard the original dog argument would still not be valid since the name Killer Whale is was not based on a sound the animal made.--70.24.211.105 (talk) 02:52, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Orca is the term Scientists are trying to make the common term as they are not Whales, but dolphins. Most modern books and scientific articles refer to them by the term "Orca". Go to any major US aquarium and ask someone who has a degree in Marine Biology what the correct term is and they will tell you "Orca". Also this site use the "Orca" and says "or killer whale". [1] Ananegg (talk) 01:39, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
- Dolphins are whales in case you didn't know. And here is one of the largest US Aquariums calling it Killer Whale. This high-level authority calls it Killer Whale, too.
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► 02:03, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
I can tell you that in the Pacific Northwest (where these things are concentrated) they are definitely called orcas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LRT24 (talk • contribs) 03:01, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Well, I can tell you there are way more in the Antarctic, where they are often called killer whales (Pitman et al. 2003, Three forms of killer whales; Smith et al. 1981, Coordinated behavior of killer whales; Visser et al. 2008, Antarctic peninsula killer whales (Orcinus orca) hunt seals and a penguin on floating ice, etc). SaberToothedWhale (talk) 04:04, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Conservation
The Killer whale is listed on Appendix II[2] of the Convention on the Conservation of Migratory Species of Wild Animals (CMS). It is listed on Appendix II[2] as it has an unfavourable conservation status or would benefit significantly from international co-operation organised by tailored agreements. In addition, Killer whale is covered by the Agreement on the Conservation of Small Cetaceans of the Baltic, North East Atlantic, Irish and North Seas (ASCOBANS), the Agreement on the Conservation of Cetaceans in the Black Sea, Mediterranean Sea and Contiguous Atlantic Area (ACCOBAMS), the Memorandum of Understanding for the Conservation of Cetaceans and Their Habitats in the Pacific Islands Region (Pacific Cetaceans MOU) and the Memorandum of Understanding Concerning the Conservation of the Manatee and Small Cetaceans of Western Africa and Macaronesia.
[edit] Fossil Range
I added yesterday the fossil range to the taxobox without providing any references because in the article Killer whale/Taxonomy and evolution there is info about this subject: The killer whale is one of 35 species in the oceanic dolphin family, which first appeared about 11 million years ago. The killer whale lineage probably branched off shortly thereafter. Since it branched off shortly thereafter I thought one can say that this species appeared about 11 million years ago.--NNeilAlieNN (talk) 10:25, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
- The statement says that the oceanic dolphin family appeared 11 million years ago, not the killer whale. Furthermore, saying that the killer whale, Orcinus orca, appeared in the fossil record 11 million years ago contradicts the article about a fossil species, Orcinus citoniensis, which lived 2 million years ago. In other words, no, you can't say that O. orca appeared in the fossil record, as you weren't reading the article clearly.--Mr Fink (talk) 13:48, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
- I might be wrong; But - as i mentioned previously - it also states that The killer whale lineage probably branched off SHORTLY thereafter. Furthermore the fact that an orca subspecies lived 2 million years ago doesn't mean that no other orca subspecies existed before this. Just like the earliest fossils of great white sharks are about 16 million years old, while other sharks date from more than 420 million years ago. This is not a contradiction. You could say so if we knew that Orcinus citoniensis was the first Orca subspecies. --NNeilAlieNN (talk) 15:08, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
- First off, O. orca and O. citoniensis are two different species, not subspecies. Secondly, the article is about O. orca, so, stating that the species, has a 16 million year old fossil presence when the source statement is referring to the genus is synthesis and original research--Mr Fink (talk) 18:15, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
[edit] Article locked but English is bad
"on even large sharks.' ought to be "even on large sharks." You can't split the preposition "on" from its object (large sharks) with an adverb. Gobbledygook StevinSimon (talk) 06:54, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
- This has been resolved now.
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► 16:01, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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