Talk:Oromia Region

The article about Oromia is a very racist and divisive article intended to spread false and tiwisted information. It is aim is nothing more than to promote separatist propaganda and distroy Ethiopia as a nation. It is a very biased pro-Oromo antiAmhara article. bek —the preceding comment is by 64.229.248.187 - 01:39, 16 December 2004: Please sign your posts!

I think bek did not read or could not read, because I do not see any of the things he is accusing the article for. Could it be he is describing himself, and may be his own supermacist Amhara people?

Joe —the preceding comment is by 151.197.122.120 - 07:57, 2 January 2005: Please sign your posts!

Bek... is talking about some thing that is not the article talking about. But his mind is blinded by the hatrate he devloped in him.

please bek, be open mind,

Boru —the preceding comment is by 68.211.102.199 - 15:30, 25 February 2006: Please sign your posts!

Bek's comment has been there for quite a while, and is in response to a much earlier version of this article. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 16:22, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, by now the Article is certainly not biased anymore, as it indeed was before. Much interesting information about Oromo culture was lost however. It would be nice if somebody could add this information again while keeping out the clear bias.

Chris —the preceding comment is by 134.146.0.6 - 21:10, 13 January 2005: Please sign your posts!

Adama

I have added information about the regional capital, Adama (which now has its own article in Wikipedia). I know that the selection of Adama as the capital was controversial, and I knew I could not mention Adama without also mentioning the controversy. I tried to keep NPOV. Gyrofrog 20:39, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

um hello, my name is rosyln and i'm actually an african studies major. i am quite fascinated with east africa particularly ethiopia. i was reading your page and it came to my attention that you spelled the name of your region with the english letters. am i mistaken? and if i'm not, how long has it been since the english language use? (it was my understanding that one of the beautiful things about your country is that it has its own dialect and so numerous unlike anywhere else in the world having sustained these alphabets for such a long time so it just so happen to have caught me off guard)

sincerely —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.59.165.44 (talk • contribs) 01:41, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understood your question correctly. When you say "English letters," are you referring to the Latin alphabet? The Oromo language has used a modified Roman alphabet since 1991. See Oromo language for more information. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 04:46, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that's what she means. It has to do with politics, Rosyln (Rosalyn?). The main Oromo group in 1991 was the OLF, who felt oppressed by Semitic-speaking Ethiopians for a variety of reasons (too long to go into here) and adopted a modified Latin alphabet (called Qubee) instead of the Ge'ez (used earlier) due to these political issues, and putatively also due to being better adapted (though there are both benefits and drawbacks imparted by each alphabet). — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 05:08, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

oh ok, i think i understand. so, this particular group changed the traditional letters to the Latin alphabet in order to riot against other Ethiopians (or i guess a particular ethiopian group)?

Finfinne not Adama

The capital city of Oromia is Finfinne (Addis Ababa). The decision to move the city to Adama was against the constitution and purely a political decision. No one except the Oromo people has the right over thier land. The Amara elite fear the very name of Oromia and Oromo. Now the city in another political decision moved back to Finfinne. Those who deny themsels the truth die from its hunger.

Bontu Oromia —the preceding comment is by 172.162.147.208 - 23:02, 23 June 2005: Please sign your posts!

I think the article was fairly clear regarding the Adama controversy (I wrote that, hoping to adhere to a neutral POV). Anyway, thanks for that update, I had not read anything about the capital moving again. I just found three articles from Walta Information Center. [1] [2] [3] I guess this didn't make the international news, what with the recent post-election events. Normally, one would have expected this sort of news to turn up on allafrica.com. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 04:54, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

State/Regional Presidents

Comparing information on the Oromia Government website & from the Worldstatesmen webpage, I find that the names of the most recent Presidents differ:

Worldstatesmen	Oromia Government
Juneidi Sad (commented out: or Junedin Sado)	Obbo Juneydi Saddo
Abadula Gemeda	Abbadula Gemmeda

So which forms of these names should we follow in this article? -- llywrch 22:37, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Obbo is basically 'mister', so it shouldn't be there. The Oromo orthography for the last name is Gammada. Not everybody spells their name according to the orthography though. Abbadula might be an Oromo version of "Abdul", but I'm not sure how it's pronounced (or spelled). Don't know about the others. — MikeG (talk) 05:03, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Mike's pretty much got it, I think. "Abdul" is not an Arabic name, so I don't think that's it (Abdul only shows up as part of a name like "`Abdul Qadir," from "`Abdu al-Qadir," with the "a" in al- being an "elliding alif"). I'm pretty sure that it's "Abba Dula" but one word, with "Abba" being related to "Obbo," and the word for "father." As for Gemmeda, Gemeda, English transliteration for Qubee-written (modified Latin alphabet) Oromo names is to use "e" for "a" and "a" for "aa" in the same way that first order vowels in Amharic are phonetically written with "e" in English, but fourth order vowels are "a," descending from short "a" and long "aa" respectively, which have been semi-preserved in Afaan Oromo, IIRC (o vs. oo and e vs. ee have definitely been preserved, though). Clarifying the others would be hard, but I'd go with the oromiagov.org spellings for those. Their spelling is definitely more like the Qubee spelling. — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 05:13, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Update: The current president's name is as such in Ge'ez: ክቡር አባ ዱላ ገመዳ Kibūr 'Ab(b)ā Dūlā Gem(m)edā. Kibur = "Honorable." I.e. "The Honorable Abba Dula Gemmeda." The status of the "a" in Abba is probably lengthened, meaning in Qubee it is spelled Abbaa, but I'm not entirely certain. Dula in Qubee is also probably Duulaa, but I can't confirm that. The use of the first order for "ge" and "me," confirm that the Qubee spelling would be Gammadaa (are you sure it's Gammada with a single "a" at the end, Mike?). It's here in this Government video Google video link (Go to 1:22). — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 06:13, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Statistics

The latest editing has some numbers that need correcting. The percentage of rural and urban should equal 100%, I think. "23.7% were rural inhabitants and 91.03% were urban" Pete unseth (talk) 16:52, 30 January 2009 (UTC)