Talk:Ottoman Empire

Merger Proposal

Population of the Ottoman Empire seems a lonely stub. Any way of including here? Haruth (talk) 01:48, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

It's better than Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Takabeg (talk) 07:52, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

That article is content fork of the article Demographics of the Ottoman Empire. "If you suspect a content fork, give the creator of a duplicate article the benefit of the doubt. Check with people who watch the respective articles and participate in talk page discussions to see if the fork was deliberate. If the content fork was unjustified, the more recent article should be merged back into the main article.". Since the data from the article Population of the Ottoman Empire already exist in the main article (Demographics of the Ottoman Empire) there is nothing to merge. Therefore article Population of the Ottoman Empire should be deleted.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:22, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. We can merge to (redirect to) Demographics of the Ottoman Empire. Takabeg (talk) 09:50, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

I agree, but in any case, we should follow the wikipedia rules and inform creator and contributors to that article about this discussion. I am in a hurry, but if nobody else do it till this evening, I will do it tomorrow morning.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:53, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

I forgot about my promise and I informed the creator of the article in question today diff. Since it is season of summer holidays and not urgent issue I propose to wait for a week or two before we proceed with proposed merge procedure.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 14:38, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

(unindent)Move the contents of the population article to the demographics one and redirect it to Demographics of the Ottoman Empire.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 01:19, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

• Should Merge.--` (talk) 00:59, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
• Merge - there already is demographics article.Greyshark09 (talk) 22:48, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
• Merge Uhlan ^talk 04:04, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

The Ottoman Empire was one of the largest and longest lasting Empires in history.

Since when? OK, one of the longest lasting I can see (though the Byzantine Empire was about 150 years more, and if being ruled by an emperor is enough to qualify as an empire, then Japan beats it by ~600 (conservatively) to ~1600 (traditional dating) years; Japan isn't very empire-like in other ways, though...); it well outlasts such famous empires as the British, Mongol, Aztec, Roman imperial period, etc.

But largest? According to our own list of largest empires, the Otto mans are about 25th, at about 15% the area of the British Empire and about 22% of the Mongol Empire (likely a fairer comparison). 98.194.40.185 (talk) 04:35, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

16 empires?

This 16 empire sentence extremely damages the credebility of this well constructed page. The claim is totally nationalistic and largely desputed. And the word "turkish" instead of turkic make it sound even more childish, please the owner of this page fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.89.170.211 (talk) 06:39, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

There is no Otto-man, Ottoman used by English that stuck. real is Osman(li) (belong to Osman the founder), it's just a name no "Otto" and no "man" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ismet11 (talk • contribs) 10:54, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Did Ottoman conquer part of Italy?

The Ottoman Empire never occupied meaningful part of Italian Peninsula. Faced with the expression "part of Italian Peninsula" a reader may think the Ottoman seized a very important part of Italy. Indeed Otranto area is about 76 km2, the Italian Peninsula is 1000 Km2. In other word the Ottoman Empire had the ability to control for only a year less that 0,01% of territory and just for a year. For instance during ww2 Italy occupied some small land in France. No one would say that Italy had occupied the French Empire- The same applies to German conquest of Channel Island. No one would say that "Germany had occupied a part of British Empire" because of that conquest. Indeed I have amended the expression n order to express that Ottoman tried to expand to Italy making Otranto a starting point but failed in that attempt. Ottoman history is plenty of glorious victories and I think we do not need to emphasize their conquests by means of ambiguous wording. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.92.153.12 (talk) 09:26, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Just edit the article yourself. Uhlan ^talk 04:06, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 1 December 2011

There are ottoman muslims in philadelphia such as rory hart. Idkaboutit (talk) 14:10, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Good to know--Jac16888 ^Talk 14:14, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Protection

I don't see any justification for protecting this article for two weeks. As near as I can tell, both users did technically violate the three revert rule, but in neither case does it appear to be intentional. User:Namuslu (contribs) appears to believe that it applies only to reverting edits by the same user, (which is a perfectly reasonable assumption, and I take serious issue with the current policy, though I obey it myself) and made a point of not reverting the revision in dispute in their subsequent edit.[1] User:Salihkocaboy (contribs) appears to have created an account solely for the purpose of reverting Namuslu's edits, however they appear to be relatively new, and the warning of the 3RR was given only five minutes before the final revert.

In short, you have one user with a long history of constructive contributions to Wikipedia, who appeared to be sticking to their (incorrect, but quite understandable) interpretation of the 3RR, and another new user, who seems completely unaware of WP's policies until they were explained. This doesn't appear to be an ongoing edit war, and blocking all users from editing the page on account of a one-time violation of the 3RR by two users, both apparently acting in good faith, would seem to be serious overkill. --Quintucket (talk) 18:42, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

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Out of place sub-section under "Demographics"?

As a new user and a non-expert I'm reluctant to edit myself, but I wanted to suggest a review of the section "The Ottoman Empire, Turkey, Iraq and Kurdistan" which contains the sub-heading "Jews and Assyrian Christians forced migrations between 1843 and the 21st century". The information appears to be out of place and the style of the section seems out of keeping with Wikipedia standards. Footnote 150 also seems unusual. Thanks! Tgellene (talk) 00:21, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

In what way? Uhlan ^talk 21:30, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Ottoman Empire vandalism?

Vandalism? I don't know how to fix it so.............

In the century after the death of Osman I, Ottoman rule began to extend over the Eastern Mediterranean and the Balkans. I like Ponies alot. The important city of Thessaloniki was captured from the Venetians in 1387. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.5.109.131 (talk) 01:28, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Just press the undo button on the article's history page if it happens again. Cheers Uhlan ^talk 02:34, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Persistant vandalsim

I have filed for a page protection for this article due to persistant vandalism. Uhlan ^talk 04:06, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

ottoman map

Please correct the map — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.103.152.45 (talk) 13:29, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Please be more specific, i.e say exactly what is wrong with the map. Uhlan ^talk 17:59, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm gessing that you are User:Tobby72? Uhlan ^talk 03:26, 28 February 2012 (UTC)