Talk:Palpatine

Joe Lieberman as Senator Palpatine?

I think the caption next to the prequel trilogy picture which reads "Joe Lieberman as Senator Palpatine" is probably an act of vandalism. Anyone else think so? Anyone know how to fix it? HuronKing, November 20th 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.123.237.251 (talk) 05:19, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Ronald Reagan?

Amidst all this talk about comparisons to Karl Rove, Pope Benedict and Zell Miller, let it be noted that the Original Trilogy was filmed during the rise and first presidential term of Ronald Reagan. I have always understood Palpatine to be George Lucas' take on Reagan, just as the Battle of Endor is Lucas' take on Vietnam. Remember, the two men being from California, Lucas knew about Reagan and his policies long before the rest of us did. I know many of you will disagree (this is Wikipedia, after all...home of contention and strife), but that is how I have understood the "hidden meanings" of TESB and ROTJ for years now, taking into account their historical context: the late 70's/early 80's. Hi Ho. 65.248.164.214 (talk) 20:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

American Dad! image

As for the image of Karl Rove as "Palpatine" in American Dad!, I do not recall any actual Star Wars hints in that episode that it was suppose to be a parody Palpatine. And wearing a red robe with a hood does not make it a fact. So, it seems like mostly speculation. DCincarnate (talk) 23:02, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I seem to recall several Star Wars hints, and additional commentary by the Rove-like personage using mannerisms as personality traits of the Emperor. Maybe we need some other eyes and comments. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 23:14, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Rove has a lot of non-Palpatine characteristics in that episode, like traditional demonic aspects. He's more of a generic dark lord rather than a parody of Palpatine. Additional citations beyond the episode would be helpful. -LtNOWIS (talk) 00:21, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Get a life, it's Palpatine. --Leladax (talk) 02:17, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

I have never watched the show, but I think we need a source that states that it is indeed Palps, if it is not made obvious in the context of the show. I would be suprised if the show didn't make multiple references to him, being that Family Guy makes SW references all of the time, and obviously the shows share creators. After looking at the picture, I would personally say it is him, but as DCincarnate said (unless we have a source) it is merely speculation. Blackngold29 15:54, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

"I have never watched the show, but I think we need a source that states that it is indeed Palps," omg get a life. seriously. --Leladax (talk) 20:56, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Keep discussion civil and relevant to improving the article, please. Nufy8 (talk) 21:06, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm merely attempting to follow the Reliable sources guideline of WP. Blackngold29 03:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm with you man. If it can't be proven of cited, it's bunk. WPinky (talk) 01:43, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Ive been an SW geek since the first movie was released, but it didnt even occur to me that that was meant to be palpatine, excepting hes wearing a robe they have nothing in common. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.89.10.23 (talk) 09:47, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Dark Empire cover image

Are we sure that image is by cam kennedy ? It looks like a trade cover to me by someone else. --Allemandtando (talk) 18:34, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Not sure, those two listed in the caption are the illustrators of that comic book series, though. Dmoon1 (talk) 19:07, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

No, Veitch was the writer. But I suppose the caption is technically accurate as showing how he was depicted, even though the illustration is actually from the Dark Empire Handbook, and was drawn by Pop Mhan and colored by Dave Nestelle. -- Ozzel (talk) 02:05, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

South Park/Grima Wormtongue

Now, there's a subject line. Anyway, it says in the popular culture section that an episode of South Park features a parody of Palpatine persuading Congress to oppose euthanasia. Anybody who's viewed the episode can see that it's a parody of Grima Wormtongue from Lord of the Rings. And yes, I earned my nit-picking fanboy merit badge today. G'luck mates. 67.172.31.71 (talk) 04:42, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Characteristics: playing both sides

I've noticed that before he came to power, he always played both sides—The Clone Wars is a great example of that. Other examples include the Naboo incident (blockade & invasion),and Outbound Flight (which also includes the Barlok incident). The only thing missing is a proper citation.--Kelvin_HO^{Wiknerd(talk)} 12:05, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Name

through out the article is says that he was also known as Darth Goole. I always thought it was Darth Sidious. And if you type in Darth Sidious in the search menu, it redirects to Senator Palpatine, but if you type in Darth Goole it doesn't. Could someone check up on his name?

Bobzooka (talk) 13:57, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Both Google and Yahoo have no relevant Darth Goole hits. I say change it to Sidious, and if the adding user would like to add it back in, they can cite it. --Ye Olde Luke (talk) 16:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Seems to me that alot of the SW's pages have been vandalized. Darth Goole and Darth Cos Dashit being the two that spring to mind at the moment. And no, he never was Darth Goole. WPinky (talk) 23:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Resemblance with Pope Benedict XVI

Palpatine's notable resemblance with Pope Benedict XVI should be mentioned somewhere in the article, probably in the "Palpatine in popular culture" section.--Sum (talk) 09:25, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Only if you like to create your own information. That's an opinion. Not a fact. And Emperor Palpatine's character has been around many years prior to Pope Benedict XVI becoming the Pope. WPinky (talk) 23:30, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

However, after looking at the pictures of both and comparing.....tha's just scary :P WPinky (talk) 01:39, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Shya, it surely is. :( Seriously, though, you will need a reliably-sourced citation that connects the two. Otherwise, we run afoul of BLP regarding Pope Benny, and, let's face it, men in funny hats are usually quite spiteful. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 17:28, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

No it shouldn't, that's entirely subjective and unencyclopedic. Uncyclopedia and Encyclopaedia Dramatica exist for things like that. 69.151.205.196 (talk) 18:58, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Having recently seen Alexander Nevsky, I think Palpatine may have been inspired by the evil archbishop. --Lazar Taxon (talk) 07:18, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Lazar, I thought the same thing. I'd heard that Darth Vader was modeled on a character from The Hidden Fortress, although they don't look that similar. The Emperor and the archbishop looked identical in dress and manner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.69.251.117 (talk) 07:11, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Darth Cos Dashit? LMAO

I removed the reference to "Cos Dashit". I beleive this was a joke inserted into this article. However, incase someone can site a reference to this, I will leave the original below.

Mentioned by Grand Moff Tarkin in Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope (1977), the Emperor, initially named Cos Dashit, was characterized as a cunning but weak politician under the control of powerful bureaucrats in Lucas's original scripts of Star Wars.

WPinky (talk) 23:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

See the last paragraph of this page. Although the “Darth” title was wrong, he was known as Cos Dashit in the original scripts. — Senator Palpatine 05:50, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Ha, I can't believe that's not vandalism. If it's in the databank then it should probably be in the article, a hidden messege stating it's not vandalism probably wouldn't hurt either. Blackngold29 06:03, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Who was the actress who played the Emperor in "The Empire Strikes Back" prior to the digital remastering?

Who was the actress who played the Emperor in "The Empire Strikes Back" prior to the digital remastering? This information seems hard to get. It should be added to this article.

Agreed, and it's surprising that it hasn't been located already. Maybe it was actually George Lucas, and this "old woman" story is disinformation. Tempshill (talk) 00:39, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

"REVELATIONS" does not belong under the Character

It is a fan-film not belonging in STAR WARS chronology nor the chronology of this character.If "fan films" are added as "canon" here then where will it end? >MaxButterchuck>> —Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxButterchuck (talk • contribs) 17:40, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Saw it as well, and removed it. Cyanid (talk) 09:43, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Kingdom Comedy Appearance

Near the end of the article it says Darth Sidious will appear in the series Kingdom Comedy... Can we atleast get a source on the show, or this piece of information. If not, someone delete that sentence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.90.147.24 (talk) 04:23, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Royal Naboo and the Trade Federation

Shouldn't Royal Naboo and Trade Federation be added to his affiliations?--24.240.186.152 (talk) 02:05, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey! Just a few comments.

Very well-made article, but I gotta say it could really use some reception information; I mean, it has some, but it discusses the ideals of the character more so than the quality of the character himself. Also, since the featured article nomination process is more than three years old, I'd recommend giving it a once over to make sure it's up to current standards. Have a good day! - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 16:52, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Identity

It says that Dooku never mentioned the existence of Sidious in the presence of the Jedi. Not true. In Episode II he tells Obi Wan Kenobi of a Darth Sidious, and that he influences hundreds of Senators. 86.144.111.199 (talk) 16:11, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Discussion pertaining to non-free image(s) used in article

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Name derivation

Wasn't his name derived from the politician in Taxi Driver, Palantine? I haven't got a concrete source for this but a Google search seems to think that it's a popular theory. 80.225.185.95 (talk) 18:34, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Wizard magazine list

The mention of Palp's Wizard magazine ranking (at the end of the 'abstract') is pretty meaningless/tone-lowering if one actually takes a look at that list... - 121.72.245.238 (talk) 11:26, 5 August 2010 (UTC)