Talk:Pepperdine University

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While Pepperdine was within the traditional area of unincorporated Malibu, when the city of Malibu incorporated, the university demanded that the borders be drawn to so as to be excluded. Rather than flatly saying that Pepperdine is "in" Malibu, a more accurate description would be that the university is "adjacent to" Malibu, or alternatively, that it is in the "Malibu area." Will McW 22:35, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Here's how it is handled in the JPL article:

The Caltech Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) near Pasadena, California builds and operates unmanned spacecraft ...

Almost all of the 177 acre (0.7 km²) JPL campus is actually located in the city of La Canada Flintridge, California, but the JPL main gate and several buildings are in Pasadena, so it maintains a Pasadena address (4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pasadena, CA 91109).

FYI - Willmcw 01:59, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC)

this unevesity was used for tv program zoey 101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.86.130 (talk) 17:35, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

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Ivy League Universities of the West Coast? Never heard of it. Is there an official list? -Willmcw 05:18, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I do not believe it exists. The Ivy League is an East Coast football league that consists of Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, Columbia, and Penn. -JB

Malibu city limits

• Despite speculation to the contrary, Pepperdine University is located within the Malibu city limits. Pepperdine University has had numerous instances of disagreement with the Malibu community over various construction projects which would require permits from the city to build. Some of these include the new Drescher Graduate Campus which was completed in 2003 and a proposed Vreizon cellular phone tower. Therefore, despite rumpors to the contrary about the exact location of Pepperdine University with relation to Malibu city limits, recent construction squables and debates go to show that in fact, Pepperdine University lies within the jurisdiction of the city of Malibu.

These are nice thoughts, but I don't see any sources. The incorporation papers of Malibu, [1], appear to clearly exclude Pepperdine. Since then they may have acquired additional property inside the borders of the city. See also this map of the 3rd Supervisorial District, which clearly shows the boundaries of the city of Malibu excluding the main Pepperdine campus. [2] I'd be happy to have other information. -Willmcw 23:28, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

Also see this voting district finder - the street address for Pepperdine is listed as being in the "unincorporated" county.[3]

I think the origin of the confusion is the name. "Malibu" is both the name of an incorporated city, and the name of the adjacent unincorporated area of Los Angeles County. This phenomenon is common in Southern California. The same applies with the Malibou Lake community, which is sometimes described as "Agoura", although it was not included when the City of Agoura Hills incorporated, and is certainly not in Malibu, either. Even more confusing is the nearby community of the City of Westlake Village, as the lake for which it is named is only half-way within the city- yet most of the residents of the other half of the lake don't even know they live in the adjacent City of Thousand Oaks. The idea is that this type of confusion is quite common in this general area.

What this does not explain, however, is why the article still insists on inferring that Pepperdine is WITHIN Malibu:

Parking is difficult relative to the average university, however. This is a result of the small size of the campus and limited room for building (not to mention strict building codes from the city of Malibu, and other governmental and political organizations in the Malibu region).

If anything, the university would be restricted by the governing body of Los Angeles County, the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, as well as the Coastal Commission, of course.

- Eric 07:13, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

That is an good analysis of the situation. Less than half of the area once known as "Malibu" was incorporated within the city limits, and the other areas are poorly identified. Pepperdine did not want to be included in the city and so it is still in the unincorporated territory of Los Angeles County. As for your last point, I didn't write that text but I can venture to guess that the university might occasionally wish to build on adjacent properties within city limits. Regardless, since it isn't sourced it's hard to be sure. I suggest that a more accurate, and vague, assertion would be to indicate that building regulations are tight without specifying which government agencies are involved. Unless we have a particular incident in mind we should stick to matters directly related to the university. -Will Beback 09:07, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Ken Star Was Never Faculty (He is Currently the Dean of the Law School)

In the late 90's Pepperdine asked Kenneth Star to be the dean of the law school. Because of his involvement in the Clinton investigation, Star regretfully declined the invitation. After the Clinton investigation was concluded, Pepperdine once again extended its invitation. Star accepted, and today he serves as the Dean.

Kenneth Starr is the current dean, as verified by the Dean's message on the Law School webpage. Serogi 22:43, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Rankings

I adjusted the rankings as they were incorrect. Wagner College (NY) won the "Most Beautiful Campus" title in 2005. Pepperdine was #1 in the 2006 list. (I also made a typo myself when I was fixing it, so I'm fixing it again.)

George Pepperdine

As there is no Wikipedia bio of George Pepperdine, shouldn't someone either A) write one or B) at a minimum, put some info about him into this article (notice that David Lipscomb has both)? I don't know enough to be the one to do it. Wasn't his fortune associated with the founding of Western Auto? Rlquall 19:54, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Honor Pledge

All students ARE required to sign an honor pledge before enrollment to the undergraduate college of Pepperdine University. As an alumnus who signed the honor pledge in 2001, I deleted the contradictory statement under "Rankings and Reputation." -JB

Pepperdine university operates on the foundations laid by the Church of Christ. It is a 'dry' university and Coeds are not allowed to be in each other's rooms past a certain time on campus. I think it's 1am on weekends? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.253.74 (talk) 15:11, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

History section

there have been many conservative supreme court judges to visit pepperdine law school and participate in lectures, moot courts, etc. does anyone have a list? It should be added!--Caligvla 08:58, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

3/2 Engineering? What's that?!

What is 3/2 Engineering? That whole section needs some rewriting anyway.RSido (talk) 04:10, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Disambiguation

The list of sports alumni has a link to the disambiguation page for Daniel Evans. I don't know anything about baseball, but because it says he is a player, and not a manager, I'm guessing it isn't Dan Evans (baseball), and I couldn't see another relevant link. I didn't want to remove it, because there is obviously a style in the list to link all the names whether they have articles or not, so I've put it as a link to Daniel Evans (Seattle Mariners baseball) for now. Could someone who knows more about it please link it to the correct Daniel Evans if there is one? Thanks loads, Kastrel (talk) 08:34, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Endowment

The figure doesn't seem right to me, or at least is confusing. US $8,500,070 million —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.219.71.171 (talk) 11:18, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Delete Non-Notables

I would suggest that all red-linked people under the "notables" list are presumptively non-notable, and should therefore be deleted. If they are really notable, someone can write an article on them, and they will not be red-linked. Does anyone disagree?--Epeefleche (talk) 09:56, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

They should either have a WP article or a reference per WP:BIO. Alanraywiki (talk) 14:58, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Agree with Alanraywiki. Either an article or a reference that shows they'd qualify for an article.   Will Beback  talk  16:30, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I strongly object to insisting that persons must have their own article. Our notability guidelines explicitly state that "These notability guidelines only outline how suitable a topic is for its own article. They don't directly limit the content of articles." So we certainly have the discretion to discuss topics and people within articles that are not "deserving" of their own article.

Of course, I don't mean to imply, suggest, or mean that we should feel free to include everyone and everything in this article. But the argument that "they don't have or can't have their own Wikipedia article" is not a valid or reasonable argument. If someone just isn't interesting, notable, or important in the least then by all means let's remove them from the article. But persons can certainly have importance limited to a particular topic or institution that makes it worthwhile to mention or discuss that person in an article without creating an article just for him or her. --ElKevbo (talk) 16:42, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Of course, requiring references is a no-brainer and I support that requirement (for nearly anything in this or any other article, not just "notable people"). --ElKevbo (talk) 16:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I think you may be missing a crucial point. You can mention a person in an article even if he doesn't warrant an article. But here we are going further -- we are suggesting that these people are notable, that they belong on a list of notable people. If they don't warrant an article, it is likely because they are not notable enough to warrant one ... or, perhaps, because there is such a dearth of interest in them, that no one bothered to write one ... which would also suggest that they are not notable.--Epeefleche (talk) 10:15, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I would add that a glance at the list suggests to me that some of these people are not especially noteworthy. It looks as though the only criteria for academecians, for example, is that they teach at a university. Well, that would also make every professor at the school noteworthy, past and present. Are we going to list them? This is a quite shoddy list, in my opinion.--Epeefleche (talk) 10:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

It has been two years, and y'all have not cleaned up this horrid mess. Therefore I will do it for you. If you want these people listed again, please demonstrate notability; don't list every alumni that ever attended Pepperdine.Edgar Vekilnik, Jr. (talk) 02:14, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

It looks much better now. Dave (djkernen)|Talk to me|Please help! —Preceding undated comment added 13:53, 9 December 2011 (UTC).

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