Talk:Poland

Mistake in infobox Mirek12 (talk) 13:57, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

In infobox country the point where is GDP PPP there is a date 2009 (estimate) but in source we have this measures for 2010 (estimate). Please check the source again and change this for 2010 (estimated) when I am right.

Cuisine

First of all Polish cuisine has no influence by the cuisines of surrounding countries. For centuries the Polish kitchen has not been borrowing from France and Italy, while it also borrowed extensively from more exotic tables: Tartar, Armenian, Lithuanian, Cossack, Hungarian and Jewish.[121] It is rich in meat, especially chicken and pork, and winter vegetables (cabbage in the dish bigos), and spices, as well as different kinds of pasta the most notable of which are the pierogi. It is related to other Slavic cuisines in usage of kasza and other cereals. Generally speaking, Polish cuisine is hearty. The preparation of traditional cuisine generally is time intensive and Poles allow themselves a generous amount of time to prepare and enjoy their festive meals, with some meals (like Christmas eve or Easter breakfast) taking a number of days to prepare in their entirety.

This is all wrong if anything the surrounding countries where influenced by Polish Cuisine!

bigos, kasza, pierogi and some many other foods are completely from Poland made by Polish people we do not have any influence by the cuisines of surrounding countries or from France, Italy the most funniest one America? are you kidding me when Polish soldiers came from Poland to America we showed American people in the 17, 18 century many Polish Cuisines Kazimierz Pułaski "The father of American Cavity" would be very angry if he was still alive and read this even though its not possible but he did save American independence and helped a lot I'm sure he showed and brought the American people and soldiers some Polish Cuisine Please change this I'm insulted.

Once again some one didn't do there homework that's why all my teachers from high school and college tell me not to use Wikipedia because most of there information isn't double checked or its completely wrong.... I do like Wikipedia but please get your information right!

Mountains

3.1 Geology "Poland has 21 mountains over 2,000 metres (6,600 ft) in elevation, all in the High Tatras." <<<<< This is not true !!!

http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Najwy%C5%BCsze_szczyty_w_Polsce

http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatry_Zachodnie

http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starorobocia%C5%84ski_Wierch

culture section issues, edit request

I've looked at the culture section of this arcticle and think that it would be good to rebuild it a little. For instance: the famous people section is doubling some issues that are mentioned in literature, I think it should be deleted in the first one. Actually I think it is not a bad idea to delete the "famous" completly with adding a little more detiled information on certain topics, like the literature section.

I think it would be great to create something about theatre (well, since Poland have great tradition of it, and is by some considered one of the most important european centres of theatrical life... Mentioning people like Tadeusz Kantor, Jerzy Grotowski, Krystian Lupa, and from younger generation Krzysztof Warlikowski or Jan Klata, outstanding actress Helena Modrzejewska, or playwriters from past times like Mickiewicz, Słowacki to more modern ones: Witkacy, Gombrowicz, Różewicz... And so on.

Another overlooked section is philosophy. At least few polish poeple working on philosophical problems are considered world's top intellectuals, gained their place in philosophers panteon. To name some: Alfred Tarski, Władysław Tatarkiewicz, Roman Ingarden, Zygmunt Bauman, Leszek Kołakowski, John Paul II or Józef Tischner.

I'm not an expert at cinema topics, but I guess it would be good to point out such people like: Kieślowski, Wajda, Kawalerowicz, Polański, Skolimowski; Pola Negri would fit here as well.

Also while skimming through music seciton I haven't found important names like: Witold Lutosławski, Henryk Mikołaj Górecki or Andrzej Panufnik, it would be good to add these and maybe a senctance about prestigious International Chopin Piano Competition?

grammar

s/seek a better wages/seek better wages/

Third Republic of Poland

Third Republic of Poland began in 31 December 1989. Ther is wrong date in box. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.175.64.15 (talk) 19:41, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from ciech22 (talk) 13:50, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

I have suggestion to the modification of the article on Poland from "16:09, 11 September 2010‎ ". I don't think word "triggering" suits there. For people who are not native English it may seem that Poland triggered WWII, and not that invasion on Poland triggered it. It's just ambiguous. My suggestion is to write sth like this "Two decades later, in September 1939, World War II started with the Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union invasion on Poland." What do you think?

Ciech22 (talk) 12:48, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Clinton Sikorski picture

The chosen picture is just flat out weird. I would suggest that this is not the most encyclopaedic picture that could be chosen. I would suggest the following: http://www.state.gov/img/10/38702/AP_hrc_poland_fm_600_2.jpg though I won't copy it to Wikipedia myself because I don't understand copyright law. Wickedjacob (talk) 11:00, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

kingdom of poland

There should be also the date of the creation of the Kingdom of Poland (1025) in the "Formation" table — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.184.212.242 (talk) 17:20, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Population is wrong

After the last edit from robertpolska the population is totally wrong (48M instead of 38M). Can someone fix it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bengal pl (talk • contribs) 11:26, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Population of Poland - leftside box

I surely doubt that population of Poland grew by 12 million in one year. It should be 38 mil than 48...Unless I am not aware of some movements - perhaps Poland regained "kresy wschodnie" and incorporated the local population :) Please correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.20.70.99 (talk) 16:24, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 5 December 2011

Serious error on population number. NOT 48,186,860 but 38,186,860

This is how the numbers look now.

Population

-          2011 estimate   48,186,860(2011)[1] (34th)
-       2002 census     34,290,000 

Stowarzyszenie Rodziny Deskurów (talk) 12:27, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Likely vandalism reverted. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 16:50, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Economy

I'm sorry but reading the economy paragraph - and knowing something about Poland - one may think Poland is a rich country or something. Its GDP per capita is lower than Greece's though, it's not even in the euro, there is a lot of poverty and a lot of infrastructure is missing in Poland (roads are a mess). Please be objective! 134.176.192.44 (talk) 11:11, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, Polish unemployment is less than Spain's and about the same as France's; being outside the euro isn't a bad thing (the Brits and Swedes don't want it); GDP per capita is a misleading measure regardless of whether you're arguing Poland is rich or poor - Poland's is higher than economic powerhouses China, Brazil and Russia by the way. But the national average wage is low by EU standards. Plus I'll grant you the roads are lousy and at ~5500 p/a there are more road deaths in Poland than in any other EU country (yes, more than in Germany which has over twice the population) so go ahead and add that, with a source which will be easy to find. -Chumchum7 (talk) 22:56, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

International rankings.

On the international rankings table for the child well being ranking there is an unnecessary link to a BBC article that has no relevance to Poland It should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gazza1133 (talk • contribs) 22:11, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

is that called history?

"Polish–Soviet War (1919–1921) when Poland inflicted a crushing defeat on the Red Army at the Battle of Warsaw, an event which is considered to have ultimately halted the advance of Communism into Europe and forced Lenin to rethink his objective of achieving global socialism." What an utter crap! not only poland invaded soviet union first... well i am wasting my time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.52.101.196 (talk) 07:47, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request 3 February 2012

Someone has already raised the topic about Poland's location in Europe, but I must say the latest update telling Poland's in Eastern Europe is entirely senseless. Not to mention the link given to BBC wesite (being a source), shows nothing but a 404 Error. I think I'd better request changing "Eastern" back to "Central", maybe even just because Poland belongs to the West not the East. By the way Czech Republic's, Slovakia's nad Hungary's hasn't been changed (they remain as "Central").

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Altoshipper (talk • contribs) 18:57, 3 February 2012‎

Not done: There is currently something of a slow-motion edit war about this. You should try to generate a consensus here on the talk page for making the change. Sorry, Celestra (talk) 05:41, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Poland is not in Eastern Europe

Poland is located in Central Europe and it can't be other otherwise. Just look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coggiorno (talk • contribs) 19:05, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Europa central

Poland is in Central Europe

190.51.132.140 (talk) 19:09, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Seconded. All sources shown at Central Europe agree, despite the single BBC reference here. As the section states discussion here prior to changes in the intro, {{admin help}}. Dru of Id (talk) 21:30, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Twice changed recently to 'Eastern Europe' in intro, despite the comprehensive maps at 'Central Europe'; suggest [ 'Central Europe' ('Eastern Europe' in some works') ].... Dru of Id (talk) 21:34, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Y Done Compromise. Dru of Id (talk) 23:58, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

I would suggest to follow the example of Germany page which deals with similar Western/Central Europe ambiguity and simply put that "Poland is a country in Europe bordered ..." I think that it would solve all the issues here. Mb nl (talk) 16:10, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request 6 February 2012 (another compromise proposal)

I totally agree with a solution mentioned above. To avoid any controversies, I suppose following Mb nl's (talk) idea and writing "Poland is a country in Europe bordered ..." or anything similar, thus omitting the entire problem.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Altoshipper (talk • contribs) 18:57, 3 February 2012‎

Y Done --andy4789 ★ · (talk? contribs?) 23:31, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Is kefir characteristic for Polish cuisine?

Any sources?Xx236 (talk) 11:00, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

What is "OECD Working time"?

Is the 2nd longest or shortest?Xx236 (talk) 13:31, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 6 March 2012

Formation should be this way. Please change the Formation.

Christianisation April 14, 965

Kingdom of Poland 966 - 1569

Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth July 1, 1569

Partition of Poland October 24, 1795

Duchy of Warsaw 1807 - 1815

The re-creation of Independent Poland November 11, 1918

Invasion of Poland, World War II September 1, 1939

Communist Poland April 8, 1945

Republic of Poland September 13, 1989 -

TrueHistoryPoland (talk) 15:31, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:53, 6 March 2012 (UTC)