Talk:Quebec

Formatting

Can we place the pronunciation inside the parentheses? Quebec /kwəˈbɛk/ or /kəˈbɛk/ (French: Québec [kebɛk] ( listen)) to Quebec (French: Québec [kebɛk] ( listen) or /kwəˈbɛk/ or /kəˈbɛk/ ) This will maintain a consist format on location wiki pages as most have this format. It also makes it easier to parse real text from recommended insight. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tcc8 (talk • contribs) 00:08, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

De Facto / De Jure

The Lieutenant Governor is the 'De Jure' head of state, and not really the 'De Facto' head of state (first line in section 5: "The Lieutenant Governor represents Queen Elizabeth II as the de facto head of state."). De Facto would imply significantly more practical power than he actually has (though in the written laws, all the provincial governors have a great deal of authority, including veto power and dissolving parliament, de facto they are decisions made by the premier). Arnoldsd02 (talk) 21:26, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

The use of the term "Head of State" for a province, which isn't a sovereign state in the eyes of international law, is itself a bit odd, though an argument could be made that the term applies because provinces are co-sovereign with the federal government. Regardless, the Queen is the Head of State of Canada and each of its provinces individually, though with a distinct legal identity in each. Now, I'm not huge on this, as I'm personally fine with referring to the various viceroys a heads of state (for all practical purposes they are, and the argument against it is tenuous at best and only really exists at the insistence of ardent monarchists rather than any official source), however, this use is controversial at best, and incorrect at worst. A more accurate term would be "de jure chief executive". SteveMcQwark (talk) 05:53, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

The original sentence only needs to have one word changed - de facto for either de jure or, better still, avoid the unnecessary qualifiers and just say "Quebec's head of state": "The Lieutenant Governor represents Queen Elizabeth II as the Quebec's head of state". Obviously, this is saying that Queen Elizabeth is the head of state, and the Liutenant Governor represents her. To use the terms de jure and de facto just confuses the any uninitiated reader into thinking there is some constitutional crisis or dispute between the lieutenant governor and the premier. 123.3.134.159 (talk) 03:33, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Missing citation

This cite [1] does not seem to be pointing to any book/journal / whatever. Does anyone know what book or journal or newpaper article or whatever it is meant to link to? Cheers.MW ^ℳ 16:38, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Correction of typo in the climate section

I've just removed a stray zero from the end of the figure for amount of snow in inches (from 120 to 12, supposed to be equivalent to 300 mm). Mashzeroth (talk) 08:24, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I had to revert that as the snow depth is in centimetres. --Ckatz^chat_spy 08:53, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Confederation-1944

The article is missing an eighty-year span of Quebec's history here. Will someone perhaps add more? Interchangeable|talk to me 22:28, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Article locked - need to remove weasel word

Hello, there is a sentence in the 3rd paragraph of the introductory section which states: "In 2006, the Canadian House of Commons passed a symbolic motion, the Québécois nation motion, recognizing the "Québécois as a nation within a united Canada."[12][13]". I strongly feel that the word "symbolic" in this context is a weasel word and is axe-grinding by Quebec anti-sovereigntists, and needs to be removed immediately, as it is unencyclopaedic and makes the article look quite biased. I would also like to point out that there are two references which support the comment having been made, but there are no sources stating that is was symbolic. I have seen the archival discussions, which were supposedly discussing this, but which were really thinly-veiled debates between Quebec sovereingtists and Canadian federalists. My basis for removing this weasel word has nothing to do with such a debate, and is about making this article more encyclopaedic. Also, before I am accused of being a Quebec sovereigntist, I am an anglophone, and I am not from Quebec (I'm Australian), nor is my family from Quebec, and nor do I have an axe to grind on this subject. 123.3.134.159 (talk) 04:25, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

I wonder if you aren't misinterpreting the use/meaning of the word symbolic in this context: perhaps it is meant to mean that the motion was important? Murmuration (talk) 04:41, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

This also isn't a case of weasel words, as that refers to instances when vague statements are made as if they are meaningful. "Symbolic" in this context means that it was not a serious resolution, but just a measure passed for political show and without any real effect. siafu (talk) 05:02, 17 December 2011 (UTC)