Talk:Runaways (comics)

Upcoming Issues/Covers

To my understanding, solicitations are not considered proper sources and how exactly are details about covers notable? It seems like a lot of fannish-detail. Similarly, having one-line plot summaries about unreleased issues seems riddled with recent-ism, since they can't give any information on notable changes or growth of the characters or the title. Inf act, because they're from solicitations, which are heavy on hyperbole and vague about plot, I suggest that we do away with the "upcoming issues" section all together.Luminum (talk) 23:58, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Section has been cut in half, removing all fannish detail; if you feel the need to trim a little more, go ahead. A ^{(Reply!,Contribs!)} 01:55, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I just realized.

Teen Titans (exceptfor Robin, of course) is a total ripoff of this. lawl. (unsigned) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.165.226.252 (talk) 03:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

...You do realize that Teen Titans predates Runaways by decades, right? 98.219.38.231 (talk) 20:38, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

You have been trolled, hope this helps. --137.122.30.140 (talk) 19:41, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Klara Plast

Bern is a city in Switzerland, so I changed the description of Klara's parents from "German" to "Swiss". Admittedly there is a similarly-named city in Germany named Berne (which may be translated to Bern in some circles, I don't know) and, hell, a handful of tiny American towns named Bern, but I'm pretty sure when she says "Bern" the writers intended the most significant, Swiss Bern. --137.122.30.140 (talk) 19:41, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

New image ideas

Well, I've been thinking of this for a while - we only have one image on the article. I was thinking we could add another image to the general plot section, though I'm not entirely sure what.

• One idea is the cover art to the very first issue of Runaways - a cover art to show the series' debut appearance.
• A second idea would be a cover art to one of the more recent Runaways issue - more modern, I guess.
• One idea I was insisting upon is the cover art to one of the Runaways' trade paperbacks for the bibliography and collected editions section; the series is frequently praised because of its sales in digests.
• Even though Runaways is set in the Marvel Universe, it is (sometimes) pulled into Marvel's large crossover events (Civil War, Secret Invasion). An image like this could be interesting, such as one for setting.

Those are some of my general ideas, though I'd like more opinions. -- A ^talk/_contribs 20:02, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, as you're aware images have to enhance understanding of the subject matter. So I don't particularly see a good rationale for an image of a trade in the publications section even if the sales are notable. An image won't really contribute to that fact. One thing I would suggest is adding images of the debut issue artwork/cover (even better if it showcases the original line up with Alex and Gertrude) and another with the more recent lineup (presumably including Victor, Klara, and Xavin).Luminum (talk) 20:16, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Good point. What I had in mind was an example of digest, but looking back now I'm not entirely sure of it. Thanks, -- A ^talk/_contribs 20:32, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

No problem. I get your line of thinking. One image you could add is a depiction of the team in the What if... series if you have one, since it's apparently very different from the Runaways common theme of "anti-superheroism."Luminum (talk) 21:08, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I'd recommend updating the infobox to {{Infobox comics team and title}} - keep the main image on the team and use the secondary image for issue #1.

Best place for an extra image here would for an alternate versions section to demonstrate a different design and/or line-up. (Emperor (talk) 21:25, 2 April 2009 (UTC))

• We have a free image of one creator, File:Brian K Vaughan.jpg. I can't source one of Alphona. There's an alternative Vaughan image at flickr, if you prefer to use that one, it just needs uploading to the commons, I have experience at that if you want to use it and don't know how to upload it. Hiding T 09:13, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

A few observations...

• As pointed out, the use of images should be limited to clarification, not added for decoration. The exception really being the infobox which is a general visual identification.
• Emperor is right, with the "team & title" infobox, as it is currently set up, there is room for the "team image" and an image of the first issue. And I'd strongly argue for the cover of the April 2003 issue.
• I'm not sure if any other image of the cast, in any form, would be usable. The nutshell is that it's redundant imagery, even if the artist and/or characters are different.
• I'm not really sure how/why Vaughan's image would fit in. Sad thing is there is no reason to add it. Even a free use image should have a reason for inclusion.

And just and side... is there a better group shot than the current one? - J Greb (talk) 20:41, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Of course, and thank you for the input. Have you seen this? It features all the main characters, but I only have one issue with it - this image is a solicit released on Marvel's official site. On the actual cover released worldwide, one of the characters is removed from it (due to departure). I'm not entirely sure the image we should be using is a solicit image, or the actual cover. -- A ^talk/_contribs 21:41, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually... that one has a similar problem. The color is off. Preferably, the characters should have the "normal" coloring.

And just as a side thought... is there a specific reason for the solicit and cover being different?

- J Greb (talk) 22:19, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, they are different. The solicit features all the characters. The actual released cover features all but one. What do you mean by "normal" coloring? I couldn't wrap my head around that. -- A ^talk/_contribs 22:22, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Coloring first...

Both the current infobox image and the new one you point to are "pushed" away from how the characters are normally colored. The current one is pushed towards an amber pallet, the other black and white with blue accents.

As for the changed art... One of the things that would be helped with an image is a section talking about changes or misdirection through differences between solicit art and final cover art. But it has to be something that the text can be cited back to a secondary source.

- J Greb (talk) 22:45, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Just a thought here... but File:RunawaysMarvelComics.jpg seems like it would be a better fit for the team image in the infobox. - J Greb (talk) 17:40, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. Personally, I'd prefer the current image - the cover features the more notable team members who've stayed on the team through out most of the series' run. But I guess File:RunawaysMarvelComics.jpg could work... the image comes from the last page of the series' first story arc, featuring the original lineup of the team. -- A ^talk/_contribs 18:45, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. But it does point up the coloring issue. (And it was a case of trying to find a place for RunawaysMarvelComics.jpg, since I'm swapping it out for the digest collection cover.) - J Greb (talk) 19:06, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Colouring issue which image? And thanks for the digest cover - actually represents the story arc, rather than the previous image. -- A ^talk/_contribs 19:43, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

RunawaysMarvelComics.jpg is what we should be aiming for. :) - J Greb (talk) 20:13, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Clarification needed

I'm a little confused as to what "the series debuted in April of 2003. Despite debuting in 2003, the actual series itself was launched in 2002 as part of Marvel Comics' "Tsunami" imprint" actually means. How was the series "launched" the year before it debuted? If it was some sort of preview thing, it might be better to put "the characters first appeared" rather than "the actual series itself". Daibhid C (talk) 12:12, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Good point, and on looking into it, apparently the "Tsunami" imprint didn't launch until 2003, so it's not really possible to have launched in 2002 as part of Tsunami. I took that note out. - Salamurai (talk) 21:19, 27 November 2011 (UTC)