Talk:Highland dress
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[edit] Scottish dress
I have edited the entry to show the "correct" spelling of gillie. While gillie itself is in effect an Anglicised spelling, the introduction of the "h" to read "ghillie" was an affectation to make the word appear "more" Gaelic. --said someone anonymous on 22 Dec 2005, without signing
- Not really. the "h" is actually there to stop people pronouncing it as "jillie". I would put it back in if I were you. -- Derek Ross | Talk 19:59, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Highland v. Lowland
"Highland Dress" now redirects to this article. Historically, that's bullshit, if you'll allow me to speak plainly. Whereas Lowlanders wore clothing common to the English, Highlanders wore clothing common to Gaels, including themselves and the Irish. This should be reflected by this article, at least with a section divide. Neither one is any more "Scottish" than the other, so there's no precedent for one to be favoured by the article. File:Icons-flag-scotland.png Canæn File:Icons-flag-scotland.png 01:48, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- I think "Highland dress" is a much better title for this article than "Scottish apparel". Can we reach a consnsus to change the name? - PKM (talk) 19:35, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yep. Never heard the phrase "Scottish apparel" before. "Highland dress" is a far more common name for it. -- Derek Ross | Talk 19:59, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
- This page should definitely be renamed Scottish Highland Dress.80.171.194.164 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added on 19:28, 24 February 2009 (UTC).
[edit] Requested move
Scottish dress → Highland dress — Somewhat belatedly, per the discussion above move over existing redirect. Mutt Lunker (talk) 22:01, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
- Support. Highland dress is what it actually is. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:23, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Done, with no objections if someone wants to add 'Scottish' on the front. -- zzuuzz (talk) 19:01, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
[edit] Arisaid
There's no Wiki article for Arisaid. I discovered this while looking for something else, and since I'm far from a costume expert I'm not comfortable making the article myself, but there ought to be at least a stub-class article on it. CouldOughta (talk) 03:52, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
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- That cite is in gaelic and completely dubious, as it contradicts all other information on kilts in wikipedia. Is there an image of these seals? 209.131.62.113 (talk) 18:10, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
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- Here's the seal of Alexander I-- shows him wearing a perfectly ordinary tunic, and the reverse shows him in armour. Wikipedia article including steel-engraved images of the same seal.
- Here's David I, again, wearing an unremarkable tunic and on the reverse, in armour. Also, steel engravings at Wikimedia Commons
- \And this one's Malcolm IV (not a great image, I'm afraid), and on the reverse, again, in armour. I'm afraid I couldn't find a better image of this one.
- So, no kilts on those guys. Beastiepaws (talk) 07:50, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
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[edit] Kilty-Police
The recent additions regarding formal wear are ludicrously prescriptive and though they may well reflect the cited text it seems to be an expression of the views of the most hardline faction of the Highland-Dress-Police. Who legislates for these so called rules? If somebody reckons they do, that could be cited but lists of allowed and not-allowed items to this level of detail seem pretty daft or should, at best, be put in the context that some only hold views that certain rules must be followed. The idea that any of this is truly traditional is also dubious, if meant to reflect usage in the period when highland dress was every-day wear. It's possibly sort-of-traditional for post revival, 19th century onwards highland dress I guess. Mutt Lunker (talk) 14:10, 10 October 2011 (UTC)