Talk:Shoghi Effendi

Date error???

Here is: While studying in England, on 29 November 1921, the news of `Abdu'l-Bahá's death reached Shoghi Effendi ... then: he arrived in Haifa on 29 December ..., is it right or wrong??? --giorces (talk) 15:19, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

The dates are correct. Based on Taherzadeh, A. (2000), The Child of the Covenant, Oxford, UK: George Ronald, pp. 272-273, ISBN 0853984395  and Rabbani, R. (1969). The Priceless Pearl (Hardcover ed.). London, UK: Bahá'í Publishing Trust: 2000. pp. 41. ISBN 1870989910. , Shoghi Effendi got news of the event on November 29. He spent some time recovering from the shock with John Esslemont. He then has some passport difficulties which delayed his travel, but he finally sailed from England on December 16 and arrived in Haifa on the 29th, one month after the passing of the `Adbu'l-Baha. Regards, -- Jeff3000 (talk) 22:58, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Ridiculous unencyclopedic style

Statements such as the following are not fit for an encyclopedia:

The marriage was a source of great joy and celebration amongst the Bahá'ís and messages flooded Haifa from all over the world.

First of all, Wikipedia is no collection of fan-site praises of any person, letting them drown in superlatives (so called peacock style). The reader should have the right to decide whether the guy was good or not – even if that overrides the Bahai policy of don't-dissent-or-face-expulsion – Wikipedia doesn't have don't-dissent-or-face-expulsion rule, that's for minor stagnant sites like Conservapedia only.

Secondly all claims in Wikipedia must be sourced and factual. If the claim be factual, it must have some secondary sources that analyses the data.

as Guardian he was empowered to interpret the writings of Bahá'u'lláh and `Abdu'l-Bahá, and these were authoritative and binding

For whom?

Throughout Shoghi Effendi's life, nearly all remaining family members and descendants of `Abdu'l-Bahá rebelled against his authority at some point

Or was it the other way around, such as: for all his life he created conflicts by an authoritarian leadership... (just an example) ... The dissonance between the wording and the minimalist interpretation makes many statements of the article hollow. Rursus dixit. (^mbork³!) 22:12, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

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