Talk:Software crisis

Erm, this page is not in suitable shape, methinks. Brent Gulanowski 00:46, 27 Oct 2003 (UTC)

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Try http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22software+crisis%22&btnG=Google+Search and try to summarize them

The roots of the software crisis are complexity, expectations, and change.

See software engineering.

Indeed, the problem of trying to write an encyclopedia is very much like writing software. Both running code and a hypertext/encyclopedia are wonderful turn-ons for the brain, and you want more of it the more you see, like a drug. As a user, you want it to do everything, as a customer you don't really want to pay for it, and as a producer you realize how unrealistic the customers are. Requirements will conflict in functionality vs affordability, and in completeness (get everything in) vs timeliness (meet the deadline).

The notion of a software crisis emerged at the end of the 1960s. An early use of the term is in Edsger Dijkstra's ACM Turing Award Lecture, "The Humble Programmer" (EWD340), given in 1972 and published in the Communications of the ACM. Dijkstra says,

[The major cause of the software crisis is] that the machines have become several orders of magnitude more powerful! To put it quite bluntly: as long as there were no machines, programming was no problem at all; when we had a few weak computers, programming became a mild problem, and now we have gigantic computers, programming has become an equally gigantic problem. [ Edsger Dijkstra: The Humble Programmer [PDF, 473Kb]]

-SV(talk) 23:08, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)

The use of the past tense is incorrect in this article

All the problems of the software crisis still exist across the software industry.

I think this article should be revised to use the present tense, or at least to indicate that the problems are still in evidence across the industry.

Birtej (talk) 14:11, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree. I am writing a thesis which touches on this subject, and I'd like to give this article a rework when I'm done with writing my thesis.—greenrd (talk) 20:30, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Maybe it was more popular in the past - I'm not sure. But I'm sure that it was popular term in my University (6 years ago). During "Software engineering" lectures there ware examples from today's life not from the past. CoperNick (talk) 08:59, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

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• Note this was virtually the entire history section. Voceditenore (talk) 13:40, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Claim not backed up by citation

According to the article, "The term 'software crisis' was coined by F. L. Bauer at the first NATO Software Engineering Conference in 1968 at Garmisch, Germany." The statement is followed by a reference, but the reference does not back up the statement. Instead, the reference states that F. L. Bauer coined the term "software engineering", not the term "software crisis". The term "software crisis" only appears once in the reference, and is attributed to "some": "This was as participants came to realize the degree of common concern about what some were even willing to term the 'software crisis'..."

I am removing the claim that F. L. Bauer coined the term "software crisis" because the references don't provide any evidence to back it up. The source currently being used clearly does not attribute the term to F. L. Bauer. --JHP (talk) 02:39, 19 October 2011 (UTC)