Talk:Stetson

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Page title: moved to Stetson after the recent change to Cowboy Hat, which doesn't match the content. Charles Matthews 13:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Nothing but cowboy hats?

I came here looking for a history of the Stetson hat company, not a treatise on cowboy hats. These things are not at all synonomous. My grandfather wore Stetson dress hats into the 1980s, and he certainly was no cowboy. This is the best we can do? --Tysto 02:44, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Also, I have a Stetson cologne and aftershave set. I'm pretty sure the company does more than just hats. Rebuttal 05:13, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Suggesting a merge and clean-up of Stetson and John B Stetson hat company

The section of the Stetson article concerning the controvery between the John B Stetson Hat Company and Christy's Hats is in need of clean up, as it contains unprofessional writing and unverifiable speculations. I propose the article be cleaned and merged with the parent article on the John B Stetson Hat Company.

Gryle 15:23, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Christy's of England story

The Christy's of England story makes for interesting reading, but nagging problems exists with regard to historical accuracy. Put simply, can the story be verified? Many of Christy's records got destroyed during the war, because they were stored in poor, damp conditions in a cellar. What survives is in Stockport Public Library. The story raises many questions. Has anyone ever been able to verify the exact date and location of the supposed court case and viewed the details of the original court documents? Has anyone in recent times ever actually seen an original Christy's hat or its design? Did any of the Christy's cowboy hats ever find their way into museums? In the interests of historical accuracy, I believe that the story needs to be verified. At present there is a lot of heresay, but no proof.

The above text was added to the main article by BOTP • (BOTP contribs), and I moved it here --Xorkl000 23:53, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Is this firm of Christy's related to Christy's & Company of Witney, Oxfordshire? It was founded in 1773 by Miller Christy (1748?-1820). An obituary in The Guardian indicates that the Christy/Christie family ran it until 1980 .

The story is retailed by "Bristol History" (nasty pop-up) and looks unreliable. 86.149.172.135 (talk) 10:16, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

The Frampton Cotterell & District Local History Society are looking in to providing sources and references for this story. Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 16:53, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Google Stetson hat and Frampton Cotterell. There is lots of evidence. Also, if the ledgend of how the hat was supposedly created is shown, why not show the Frampton Cotterell possibility as well? possible source: http://www.cavhooah.com/john_stetson.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.40.128 (talk) 14:41, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

The two accounts

The author of this article implies that the two accounts of the Stetson are mutually exclusive, and therefore one is correct, when in fact this line of reasoning is obviously fallacious (enough so that it might be considered a NPOV violation). An earlier hat of the Stetson-style could have been made in England, with Stetson later devising his own design independently. Someone should come up with a source that suggests the popular Stetson account is a legend, if this claim is to be included.

The Frampton Cotterell & District Local History Society are looking in to providing sources and references for this story. If anyone has information on how to find U.S. Patent 19th Century Case-Law, it would be helpful. Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 10:01, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

That's good. Although irrelevant to my objection. My objection was that this new theory could not be used to disprove the Stetson legend, even if it were substantiated, as the previous, biased article suggested. Both accounts could simultaneously be true. That's all I'm sayin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.161.188.36 (talk) 22:18, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Generic, brand?

There are two uses for "Stetson hat". One is a hat made by the Stetson company. The other is a style most associated with the Stetson company.

My question is whether there is a specific difference between the latter and a general Cowboy hat. If not, cowboy hat is where such things should be discussed, and things like the Christy's argument should go in the Stetson Company article. TheHYPO (talk) 10:55, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Wha?

The second paragraph is utterly incomprehensible: "Stetson Kuykendall rode the pole to success of its iconic styles... "

• What is "Stetson Kuykendall"?
• What does "rode the pole" mean?
• "to success of its iconic styles" is just ungrammatical —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.40.162.30 (talk) 13:26, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 16:56, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

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Stetson → Stetson (hat brand) – The hat, a company, and two universities are named after John B. Stetson. This can't be the primary topic. Marcus Qwertyus 09:24, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

• Sure it can. Why not? I think most people outside of Texas would be surprised to learn about the company of the universities. Powers ^T 13:26, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. – ukexpat (talk) 20:32, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

• You mean WP:Primary topic. Marcus Qwertyus 01:54, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.