Talk:Sting (wrestler)

similarity to the crow

Why does sting look a lot like the crow? Did he just rip off the character? Do a google search and you'll see what i mean. Did he look like that before the movie was realeased? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.18.58.218 (talk) 21:47, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

The Brandon Lee movie came out before Sting adopted the look. Insley (talk) 03:42, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

He adapted part of the character as a gimmick. Think it was Nash's idea back in WCW for Sting to do it, so WCW creative chose to use some of the ideas.--WillC 03:50, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Title names

To the IP, stop changing the title names in the lead. You are changing them to WRONG names. There is no "NWA Championship", it's the "NWA World Heavyweight Championship". The same goes with the other titles. The idea is to be factually correct, which you are no doing. If you think you have a valid reason for using wrong names, please state them here instead of reverting. TJ Spyke 23:01, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

To the IP, stop accusing me of vandalism when you are the one vandalizing the page. Changing your IP doesn't hide that you are the same one. Stop it or this page will be protected from IP editing. TJ Spyke 17:20, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Not 13 time World Champion

Sting's WCW International heavyweight championship does not count towards his world title count because it never was a world title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.93.167.109 (talk) 02:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Proof? Was called a world championship and defended world wide.--WillC 03:12, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Godfather of the Main Event Mafia

On Kurt Angle's page, he has 'Godfather of the Main Event Mafia' listed under his nicknames. Sting won the title of godfather from Angle at Sacrifice this year and was refered as being the godfather by others. How is this different from Angle? Either add the name to Sting's list or remove it from Angles if it's a title. 83.183.143.126 (talk) 22:30, 14 September 2009 (UTC) Padrino

Angle was called the Godfather every week for about 6 months, Sting was only called it when he once (when he beat Angle to win the leadership of the MEM). Sting would have needed to be called it multiple times to be considered a nickname. TJ Spyke 22:43, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Number of World Titles

Didn't Tenay call Sting a Twelve-time World Champion a few months back? Seeker of the Torch (talk) 08:50, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia is well known for including "world title" that are not recognized by anyone bar the promotion they are defended in, such as the WWA title, or the PWG title. Almost all wrestling promotions, regardless or size or location, claim to have a "world title" - wikipedia gives the same credit to, say, the CZW world title, that they do to with WWE title. It's a system that could be resolved by simply going along with Pro Wrestling Illustrated (PWI) - one of, if not the most respected wrestling publication, who have a recognition system of world titles and gives "world title status" to different world titles depending on what level the promotion has reached. But so far, wikipedia has ignored these requests. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.206.27 (talk) 09:55, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, because it is a publication, not fact. It is the magazines view of things. Not fact.--WillC 11:28, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

It's a highly respect "opinion" within the industry. What more is needed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.197.129 (talk) 15:25, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

WWE

Will has Steve Borden signed with the World Wrestling Entertainment? That will be on everyone's minds after World Wrestling Entertainment aired a promo during Monday Night RAW on 1/31/2011 that was very similar to a promo Steve did for WCW in 1997. Keep in mind the World Wrestling Entertainment has been trying to sign Steve sinse the company is in Atlanta, Georgia this year for the Hall Of Fame/WCW this year for World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE). Until then the WWE Universe will have to wait 2-21-11. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.128.172.55 (talk) 04:38, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I love it that Sting hasnt been confirmed to have signed with the WWE and yet his page said it has been confirmed. Sting is currentl a free agent and WWE Reports linking him to the WWE are SPECULATION. 91.105.3.38 (talk) 19:27, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

That's Wikipedia for you, what do you expect? Spartan198 (talk) 09:37, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Don't have 100% proof of this because I cannot pause the vingettes at the right time. Currently on WWE the 2.21.11 vingettes have been airing. Watch the first and seconds one very carefully. The first one is of Undertaker peeking out of the window from behind a shade just to the left of the door. It opens to reveal someone wearing pants and boots and not the current Undertaker attire he last wore. The second video is more revealing. Undertaker is clearly seen inside the cabin looking out the window, and then outside the cabin is yet another figure also wearing a trenchcoat. The new figure is wearing what appears to be Undertaker's current attire, the one piece singlet yet look very closely at the window when you see this figure and you will clearly see Undertaker still looking out the window. Could this be a teaser for Sting versus Undertaker? There is no proof but how would you get Sting to sign to a WWE contract when he hates the WWE? Offer him something that would make him bigger than when WWE poked fun at WCW stars, in example the Rock to Booker T, "Who are you?" Offer him to break the streak. This is all an opinion but watch the second vingette if you can and you'll clearly see 2 figures wearing trenchcoats. Charles-Joseph (talk) 06:30, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

That is Original Research and this is not a forum.--WillC 08:41, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

So? This is the discussion tab. Jeremy (talk) 23:17, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Suggestion!

OK. I just noticed the 21 February tease on Raw, and I think Sting should get his article protected until February 22 at least, until anything is concrete. That way, random users won't go posting spoilers and stuff.50.16.114.237 (talk) 05:14, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I want to add to this because an edit was made that said Sting was bringing in Chris Benoit and another person to WWE and as we all know Chris Benoit killed himself, as well as his wife and child some years back. So I'm all in favor of a lockdown on this entry. DaMoNZL (talk) 06:14, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

A protection for the article sounds good to me. Sting's page was being edited all night during Raw after that first teaser. My first thought after the promo was Awesome Kong. But it could be anyone really, we don't know yet. Usually there's some word on the dirtsheets if someone is signed or close to signing before we see any vignettes on WWE TV, and I haven't seen much of anything about Sting yet. InFlamester20 (talk) 20:16, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah because some unknown DIVA, not even a male wrestler, would get this kind of hype. It's Sting: we must now unprotect and add the relevant information. 212.139.55.189 (talk) 02:55, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

If Sting goes to WWE it will be the biggest coup in wrestling history as he himself stated some time ago that he'd never work for Vince.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 02:58, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

The man they call Sting has been removed from TNA's current roster —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.185.115.230 (talk) 04:19, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

arguably??!

last sentence, opening paragraph, he is arguably the most well-known professional wrestler to have never performed for World Wrestling Entertainment. where does the word arguably come in to play. this is basically a fact. yes, some other well known wrestlers may not have performed in a wwe ring, but have worked for wwe. whether this be behind the scenes, an agent, legends contract. even most of the young guys that are well known in tna have worked for wwe in developmental territories or jobbers. but sting is definitely the most well known to never have worked for them. now my next statement holds irrelevance, i know, and my next statement will make this whole arguably section irrelevant, because it will hold no ground when sting finally appears on a live wwe broadcast in the next month or so. but forgetting that and throwing that out, how in present time is it arguable that sting is not the most well known to have never worked for wwe? 68.34.175.125 (talk) 18:35, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Because Sting isn't the only well-known wrestler to have never worked for WWE. AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Christopher Daniels, or any number of well-known Mexican or Japanese wrestlers could also lay claim to that title. Look, I'm not saying I disagree with you (in fact, I do agree with you), but the idea that he is factually the most well-known wrestler to have never worked for WWE is against Wikipedia's NPOV policy. Spartan198 (talk) 09:37, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

AJ Styles and Samoa Joe worked for WWE but only in a match or two on Jakked or Metal I believe. TheGary (talk) 23:50, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Lou Thesz, Giant Baba, Mitsuharu Misawa, and Georg Hackenschmidt are all far more famous than Sting ever was, and none of them ever worked for WWWF / WWF / WWE. 12.198.205.9 (talk) 19:59, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Uh, the only name I recognise in that sentence is Sting 81.107.133.187 (talk) 10:31, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Wrestling did exist before 1985, you know... Thesz was an 18-time world champion, who actually wrestled his final match at the age of 74; Baba was the co-founder of All Japan Pro Wrestling, and at 6'10" was the Japanese equivalent to Hulk Hogan; Misawa succeeded Baba as president of All Japan, and went on to found NOAH. He died in 2009 from a neck injury caused by a botched German suplex. As for Georg Hackenschmidt, he was only the first-ever Unified World Heavyweight Wrestling Champion; the NWA title traces its lineage back to Georg Hackenschmidt. (All information sourced from Wikipedia articles on the respective wrestlers) Insley (talk) 03:40, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 85.101.254.72, 8 February 2011

{{edit semi-protected}}

85.101.254.72 (talk) 20:35, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Please clarify what you want added to the article.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 20:37, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Not the only one

Article states Sting is "currently the only man to hold the NWA, WCW, and TNA World Titles in his career." This may not be true, depending on one's interpretation of the facts. When TNA was founded, their title was the NWA Title. They returned the title to NWA in May 2007, and the TNA Championship was created at that time.

Jeff Jarrett is a six-time NWA Champion, and a four-time WCW Champion. However, since all six of Jarrett's NWA reigns came while the belt was under the exclusive control of TNA Wrestling (and was for all intents and purposes the TNA Championship), it can be argued that this also makes him a six-time TNA Champion. (The counterpoint is that he has not, however, held the title since the NWA belt was returned to the NWA in May 2007.)

Discussion?

Insley (talk) 03:56, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

This situation has been discussed many times. TNA have tried to re-write history since May 2007. At first they recognized the title as a completely new title and still do to an extent, however they've been idiotic and tried to include the NWA Title reigns. We report the facts on here through sources. What we've established is to go by what actually has occurred. So, Jarrett is not a TNA champion, he is an NWA Champion in TNA. The first TNA Champion was Kurt Angle and last NWA Champion in TNA was Christian Cage. Sting at this point is the only one to have held the WCW, NWA, and TNA titles. Angle and Jarrett are the only wrestlers at this time who could one day share this accomplishment with Sting, as Angle needs the NWA Title and Jarrett needs the TNA.--WillC 04:47, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

15 time World champion - isn't this just degrading wikipedia?

No organization nor publication recognizes small-time promotions like the WWA essentially was as having "world titles" - TNA never refer to Sting as a 15 time champion. If we can't practise some common sense, shouldn't we simply list the individual championships (WCW title, NWA title etc.) rather than combining everything together as "world titles" ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.13.205.214 (talk) 16:53, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

The WWA title was very much a world title, since it was defended overseas. Wikipedia will indeed combine everything as world titles, then users like you can determine which of those you deem credible enough. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.219.215.235 (talk) 14:08, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

I can't see Sting's article

Can any wikipedia admin help me know what's going on with Sting's article because the entire page went just blank today. There's no way that there's something wrong with my computer that I cannot see the article, so I'm now confused about what had just happened to it. Kyrios320 (talk) 09:28, 1 January 2012 (UTC)