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[edit] And county?

Why did it say "borough and county" of S-o-T? I don't understand when it was ever a county and its current status as a unitary authority is not as I understand it the same thing. I've taken it out for the moment but would be happy to discuss it. Nevilley 10:06, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Ceremonially, the areas of Stockton north of the river Tees (i.e. the vast majority) is in Durham, while Yarm is in North Yorkshire

[edit] District Vs Town

"The combined size of the borough equates to approx 180,000 people and makes it larger than Middlesbrough in terms of population and square miles" The borough maybe bigger an more populous than Middlesbrough Borough (186,700 to M'bros 142,600). But boroughs arent towns, they are districts. For example Stockton-on-tees borough contains Billingham, Thornaby, Yarm etc. you cant exactly say theyre part of Stockton town can you. In terms of a town however Middlesbrough is larger as the Borough of Middlesbrough basically forms the whole town so with this stockton Town has 80,000 and mIddlesbrough still has around 142,000. Then theres whether you want to count Eston with its middlesbrough address, as being part of the wider urban area of Middlesbrough which, with this defintion, has a population of 180,000 (approx) within just under 29 square miles.

"For ceremonial purposes, the town of Stockton-on-Tees is split between County Durham and North Yorkshire" well this is wrong. Stockton Town is 100% in Durham ceremonially, the 'Borough' however is split between the two counties of North Yorkshire and Durham. Stockton, Billingham and Eaglescliffe are the main settlements in Durham whilst Yarm, Ingleby Barwick and Thornaby are in North Yorkshire.

"Major industries in Stockton have included ship-repairing, steel and chemicals, although most ship building was performed in nearby Hartlepool and most chemical plants are in nearby Middlesbrough" This is also erroneous. Stockton was major ship BUILDER, but as steel hulled ships got larger the river Tees just wasn't deep (or wide) enough, and the yards declined into repair work. I don't think Hartlepool was ever a major player in ship-bulding. The majority of chemical works were centred on Billingham and later expanded onto the Seal Sands site at Teesmouth. ICI Wilton was the only major chemical plant at Middlesbrough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenwilco (talkcontribs) 13:29, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I know it's a late reply - but Wilton has never been a part of Middlesbrough. Francis Hannaway 20:48, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Nothing wrong with Nowhere guide link

http://knowhere.co.uk/519.html

They are far more INTERESTING to read than the bland, couldn't-be-more-boring, tourist information brochure that is the article.

Maybe the link should have a content description - but I don't imagine most readers will be as square as you think they are. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.252.236.92 (talk) 20:04, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Teesnewportbridge.jpg

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[edit] Notable People

Also Tony Scott (brother of Ridley Scott and director of Top Gun, Ridley, who was born in South Shields, also lived in Stockton-on-Tees where he studied at Grangefield School.

What with the unpaired parenthesis it is difficult to follow the sense of this statement. Stuffed cat (talk) 14:00, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] More work needed

I intended to expand and improve this article. I have made a start by adding headings found in Featured articles about places. Rikstar409 20:20, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Do not add headings until there is content to fill it. Jenuk1985 | Talk 20:29, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
You move quickly; I didn't have time to add content to headings before you removed them! I put them in first as it would enabled me to add content more easily. It wouldn't have been a problem of galactic proportions to wait a while would it?

Please assume good faith. You can always use my talkpage to express reservations before making edits. Rikstar409 20:45, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Create the headings as you add the content then, there is no need to add section headings first. Jenuk1985 | Talk 20:47, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Maybe using a work in progress banner would be useful here? Fraggle81 (talk) 00:10, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Passenger Railway

This page is incorrect. Passengers on the Stockton-Darlington railway were tagged along with the freight if there was room - freight took priority. There was no scheduled passenger services, timetables, etc. This cannot be called a passenger service. The line was also not fully motive all the way, as a small section was horse drawn.

The world's first railway dedicated primarily for passengers was the Liverpool-Manchester, 1830. A full inter-city passenger railway with proper passenger stations, timetable, ticketing, etc, as we know now.

As the first train left Liverpool, the first passenger station was the terminal Crown St. Crown St and Edge Hill stations were abandoned in 1836. Edge Hill station was about 400 yards from Crown St through a tunnel. Edge Hill station was moved 1/4 mile to the north at Edge Hill junction, 1936. The oldest passenger railway station still in use is Liverpool Broad Green, 1830, the second station from Crown St.

I hope this helps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.65.3.92 (talk) 01:44, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Merge of Grangefield, Stockton-on-Tees

Grangefield, Stockton-on-Tees is a very short, unsourced article, with nothing to justify a separate existence. Should merge (not that there's anything to merge) or redirect here. Rodhullandemu 00:15, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

Please see File_talk:Stockton_Town_Hall.jpg regarding the composition of the Town Hall image. Thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 08:25, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Tony Scott's birthplace

132.185.144.121 raises a query (italicized) in this sentence: Also Tony Scott (brother of Ridley Scott), director of Top Gun, was born in Stockton (his IMBD page says he was born in South Shields?). Any help please? I removed it from the article as I don't think we can do Talk page discussions in the body text, but it's a fair question. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 12:26, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

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