Talk:Sumerian religion

Ishtar isn't Akkadian

I don't know if it was my mistake or whose, but Ishtar isn't akkadian. Besides in some parts being called Innin, and at times Nannaya, Inanna pretty much stayed as Inanna until the OldBabylonian period. For example, if you read Enheduana's hymns, they're to Inanna and not Ishtar. Inanna was merged with Ishtar later on. Abdishtar (talk) 17:29, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello. Please cite your sources properly for any changes. Then we can put the change to Ishtar under the Babylonian section rather than the Akkadian one.NJMauthor (talk) 20:54, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Enheduanna's hymns at ETCSL is one source: http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/etcsl.cgi?text=c.4.07*&charenc=j#

And in the Babylonian texts the name Ininn/Inanna is replaced by Ishtar, for example the babylonian hymns: http://books.google.com/books?id=IigBAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA160&dq=ishtar+raising+of+the+hand&lr=&as_brr=3&cd=1#v=onepage&q=ishtar%20raising%20of%20the%20hand&f=false

(often they were written in akkadian, but they themselves weren't akkadian, so I can see where the confusion comes in. Akkadian was used like Latin, as a language for literature, though Ishtar herself wasn't akkadian)

Abdishtar (talk) 15:49, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Cool, go ahead and put it in, maybe with an explanation for the possible confusion. If you don't want to I'll go ahead and do it after a few days. NJMauthor (talk) 00:14, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Please do not revert this page

Please do not revert this page without discussing it on this talk page first. The creation of this page was not an act of vandalism, but was rather discussed and affirmed on the Mesopotamian Mythology Talk Page. It is a step in the process of separating Mesopotamian mythology from an erroneously lumped-together article into sourced articles that depict each mythology accurately. see: Babylonian mythology, which has already been established for this purpose.

Thank you for your diligence. NJMauthor (talk) 23:42, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Sources and the Sumerians

Sumerology as an independent field of study is relatively young compared to Egyptology and Assyriology. Because of this, and the historical interrelationships between Assyrian, Babylonian, Akkadian and Sumerian mythologies, examination of sources is very important to determine which mythology a given source is referring to. Many sources refer to Babylonian, Akkadian or even Assyrian texts as Sumerian texts. It is important to note that sources older than the ninteen-forties might be void of any information related to the Sumerians even if they use the name "Sumerians" to describe their subject. Many sources, especially from the late 1800's and early 1900's, contain information now deemed inaccurate, biased or even racist.

No sources should be dismissed outright because of age or authorship; but as objective students of history we must give our sources careful scrutiny.

Thank you for contributing to wikipedia. NJMauthor (talk) 23:42, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Monotheism

What of the references to Sumerian monotheism by Stephen Herbert Langdon? [1] Faro0485 (talk) 17:45, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

This outdated source seems to offer no actual textual support. The oldest societies tended to deify cosmic and terrestrial forces, not have vague supreme beings that were later "polluted" by polytheism.NJMauthor (talk) 21:42, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

On Ki being the goddess of the earth at Esagila

Is the "at the Esagila" temple part necessary? I mean, Ki in general is 'earth' in sumerian, and in all sumerian and in some akkadian texts, she is the goddess of earth, not just at Esagila. As for the citation being needed, I added a link to the sumerian language page (or at least I am as soon as I am done here). But couldn't we just get rid of the "at the Esagila" part? Abdishtar (talk) 22:48, 4 February 2010 (UTC) 17:04 27 January 2010 —Preceding undated comment added 22:05, 27 January 2010 (UTC).

We certainly could. I see no problem with removing it. NJMauthor (talk) 06:56, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

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