Talk:Survivalism

Citation formatting

The article has been tagged as using bare URLs instead of the proper formatting for web citations. I've started the process of cleaning these up and am going section by section. I just thought I would mention it in case anyone would like to lend a hand with the clean up. Thanks.--Surv1v4l1st ^{(Talk|Contribs)} 22:24, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Survivalist scenarios and outlooks

This whole section is stupid. It reads like a list of character classes taken from a roleplaying game, or 4chan.

'Further reading' section

The current 'Further reading' section consists of external links to classic texts. Any thoughts on perhaps moving this to an External links section and adding a short 'Further reading' section devoted to books and, perhaps, periodical articles on the topic?--Surv1v4l1st ^{(Talk|Contribs)} 17:41, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Merging Prepper

Prepper appears to be about the same thing. I think it should be merged into this article. Thoughts? --AW (talk) 21:52, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

I concur with the merge, although some split hairs over a distinction... BobbieCharlton (talk) 22:42, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

I have to disagree with a merge. The two often overlap but are not the same thing. Many survivalists may consider themselves as preppers, but most preppers do not consider themselves survivalists. Storing extra food or preparing for a disaster does not make you a survivalist. Look at the root words to understand the difference. Prepper - Prepare... and Survivalist - Survival. Prepping is synonymous with preparing meaning to get prepared prior to an event. Survivalism is more about the skill set needed to survive an event. A prepper is someone who partakes in preparedness more so than survivalism, where a survivalist is more into hardcore survival gear, supplies and strategies.

In short, a Prepper is someone who is involved with Preparedness while A Survivalist is someone who is involved with Survivalism

If this page were to be merged it would fit better being merged with Preparedness rather than Survivalism

But even that I still disagree with, as the Prepper movement is a completely different movement made up of different groups of people than those who are involved with the survivalist movements. In the prepper movement you will find more urban and suburban people. People who prefer to find ways to bug in rather than bug out during a disaster. Rather than a merge, I would suggest doing more research on the movement and culture and add more information including information on the differences between survivalists and preppers including as well as information about why certain people identify themselves as preppers rather than survivalists and vice versa.

Keywords to think about Preppers:....Preparedness, prepare, prep, get ready, store up, prior, short term disasters, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes Keywords to think about Survivalists:....Survive, Survival, Survival skills, TEOTAWKI, SHTF, Societal Collapse, Pandemics, 2012, Economic collapse. OneOregonMan (talk) 18:54, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Needs merged. More coverage would do these topics right. Prepper would be a great sub topic here.--Dana60Cummins (talk) 21:01, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

I concur, merge them, with Survivalism as the main page title. BobbieCharlton (talk) 23:06, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

I still disagree. If it must be merged it would belong under preparedness, not survivalism. A poll of people who consider themselves as preppers would show that the vast majority of them lean more towards preparedness than survivalism. OneOregonMan (talk) 04:36, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello! This was a very interesting and enjoyable article to work on. I hope I did more good than harm with my copy edits. On the whole, it was well-written and well-sourced; there were just a few instances of un-attributed claims and vague assertions (e.g. "Some people think...")—I tried to tag them without going overboard. You've probably already noticed that the "Preppers" article was turned into a redirect to this page about a week ago without any transfer of information. Having read both articles and the above discussion, I agree that "Prepper" would do well as a sub-topic here. That is, if there is a notable and verifiable distinction between the two. It can always be split into its own article in the future if there's enough information to warrant it. Cheers. Braincricket (talk) 03:13, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Merge?

Merge with Survival Skills? --92.203.47.185 (talk) 12:37, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

I think you may mean Survival skills (note second word). As this point, I'd favor keeping the articles separate as they cover different topics. Surv1v4l1st ^{(Talk|Contribs)} 22:25, 27 September 2011 (UTC)