Talk:Tanoli

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Government

The rulers of Dir originally held the title of Khan but from June 1897 onwards were styled Nawab Khan Bahadur of the Tanoli tribe. The royal status of the rulers was abolished in 1972 at the same time as most other princes of Pakistan.

Tenure	Rulers of Dir
Unknown dates	Gholam Khan Baba
Unknown dates	Zafar Khan
Unknown dates	Qasem Khan
1863–1874	Ghazzan Khan
1875–1886	Rahmat Allah Khan
1886–1890	Mohammad Sharif Khan (1st time)
1890–1895	Mohammad `Omara Khan
1895 - December 1904	Mohammad Sharif Khan (2nd time)
December 1904 - February 1925	Awrangzeb Badshah Khan
February 1925 - 9 November 1960	Mohammad Shah Jahan Khan
9 November 1960 - 28 July 1969	Mohammad Shah Khosru Khan
28 July 1969	State of Dir dissolved

Andki or not Hinki

Pashtun's recall them Andkai instead of Hindki. for common punjabi's Pashtun's use the term as Abo-wal, this difference make sense as these people migrated to this area along with Pashtuns and they call them Andkoi with the reference of there place of migration which is wrongly confused with Hind. I have uploaded two links ,travel guide of afghanistan and list of district in Faryab province which indicates the location of Andkoi/Andkhoy/Andkai District . Map , district information and travel information mention the place with three different speelings.

• [1] Andkoi, the real place of Migration from Afghanistan.
• [2], Travel & tour information of Afghanistan .

REGARDS

ZARRIGUL Zarrigul (talk) 15:36, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Among the various theories of Tanoli origin the Janjua has never been entertained as a serious approach in the debate. It is something that Tanolis themselves have criticised and keep out of their discussions. Whoever has reinserted it in this article has either a Janjua background or is a mischief maker at best. In the debate amongst Tanolis themselves the Abbassi orgin has more credance than the Panjabi Janjua theory as is evidenced by the many Tanolis with this term as a surname. Not withstanding the dispute in Hazara re: Pakhtunkhwa and Hazara Suba the major approach in the Tanoli origin debate is the Pashtun background followed by the Turkic hypothesis. All else is utter nonesense. Moarrikh 10:51, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Multiple Problems

Hello. I've been working on and off on trying to fix this article, and apart from other concerns, it also seems to have (a) basic structural and language problems that will take a while to fix (b)a lot of repetition that merely duplicates other pages and (c) a somewhat 'slanted' or 'biased' p.o.view, which is not necessarily historically accurate. In addition to other changes/amendments, Ive removed all the names of the Nawabs of Amb (who are the chiefs of the Tanolis) from the list of 'notable Tanolis' and renamed it 'Other Notable Tanolis'--since the Nawabs already have their own pages and, again, a lot of repetition seems to come in. I trust that this meets with general approval please? Thanks, Khani100 (talk) 18:31, 29 November 2011 (UTC)Khani100

And I hope to be able to keep slogging on at this, and some of the other 'problematic' articles/pages re Pakistan/WP Pakistan! : ) Khani100 (talk) 18:33, 29 November 2011 (UTC)Khani100

Edit request on 8 December 2011

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Can i have a chang here?plz in the subtribe pallal CHAMBIAL is missing can some one change it,Thank You.

27.255.60.250 (talk) 12:26, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 22:42, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 8 December 2011

THE SUBTRIBE PALLAL CONTAINS ON MORE TRIBE WHICH IS KNOWN AS CHAMBIAL,PLZ INSERT THE FOLLOWIN TRIBE IN TE PAGE(TANOLI).

Azlan tahir (talk) 12:32, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 22:42, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

I would strongly urge that tribes and etc section please not be changed/altered; else, there will be no end to this and this article wll once again become a place for self-advertisement by different local tribes and people, from this region. Thank you. Khani100 (talk) 01:44, 11 December 2011 (UTC)Khani100

The introductory sentence introduces the Tanolis as Hazarawal tribe but this makes no sense given that all tribes in Hazara have origin elsewhere as is the case with other major Pakhtunkhwa groups e.g. Swatis, Jaduns, Sayyads, various clans of Yusufzais and ghakkars etc. Unless all tribes with articles in Wikipedia follow this consistently the term Hazarawal needs to be removed from this article otherwise it is serving a political purpose for a sepatarist movement by the so-called Hazarawal Qomi Movement. Moarrikh (talk) 14:11, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, Tanolis are of Turkish/Mughal origins, although I see that someone has also tried to tamper with this and add a fictitious 'Abbasi' (i.e. Abbasid) origin to them! I think this rot will never end and people will keep on altering the historical origins of their tribes in Pakistan for self-glorification. Right now, this page is locked but how long will this last? I think that most of these pages need to be simply deleted, or rationalsed in some way. (Osman Khan Tanoli) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.54.79.78 (talk) 11:04, 28 January 2012 (UTC)