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[edit] Marine/marine-Soldier/soldier

What is the accepted practice on wiki for capitalization of marine and soldier? I can only speak as a soldier, but only in official Army correspondence do we use the capitalized Soldier. Is the Marine Corps the same way? If so, why would marine be capitalized and soldier not? Robbskey (talk) 21:44, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

I always capitalize the M in Marine. It is short for an official title and also separates the word from ocean-related stuff.--NortyNort (Holla) 23:24, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Marine is capitalized when in context of the Corps, soldier is not capitalized in any context, unless its at the begining of a sentence. Trinjac (talk) 19:09, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Rubbish - see Wikipedia:MOSCAPS#Military_terms. 79.77.226.51 (talk) 09:34, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] USMC listed at FAR.

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[edit] Percentage games

I've got a more recent ref at 7.8% of the DoD budget. This does not mean that 6% of the defense budget is wrong, as that is the same sized slice from a slightly larger pie.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0BxWUADutnijUY2YzNDE0MzItNDZlYy00MmI5LWEyYzAtYjRkYzMxZjM0NmNh&hl=en&pli=1

So use this new number? Hcobb (talk) 02:10, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

[edit] I have been trying with no luck to find out who this man is...I have his Dog tag, I found...I am Canadian and I don't know who will read this.I'm hoping that someone will who this Marine is.{Rego Christian,USMC, S.V.,O27.72.1227 MALE

hELLO mY Name is Joshua Kindred...I live In Moncton Canada,I found a Dog tag in some army boots I got,,I have been having a real hard time finding out who this man is ,,This is the Info on the tag ..Name{Rego Christian}S.V. ,A NEG,027.72.1227 ,USMC,MALE...........iF ANYONE CAN HELP ME FIND OUT ABOUT THIS SOILDER I WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.My Email is Joshua.Kindred@live.ca..Thank you....... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.252.8.224 (talk) 13:32, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Rank

Was more than slightly tempted to add content to the "Rank" section. Agree with 3 groupings for officer, enlisted, and others. Still think there is room for "contributors"... just a rank officer? Enlisted service member. Jambay (talk) 12:56, 12 October 2011 (UTC) sorry, had to login for account recognition.

What exactly is missing or incorrect in the current "Rank structure" section? Commissioned officers, Warrant officers, and Enlisted each have a subsection there now. -Fnlayson (talk) 15:10, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Nothing wrong, and "Rank" is always structured. Was leaning toward - we're all Marines. Still trying to figure that out but my intent is - "Once a Marine always a Marine" applies to anyone that cares to choose to serve. (more to follow). Jambay (talk) 03:07, 27 October 2011 (UTC) to comply with "not a chat forum" rules... http://www.uthynq.com/JBDoc/index.php?title=Marine_Corps reference for details. (not meant as personal link but only reference I have to clarify intent).

[edit] Odds and Ends

I thought it might put WWII in perspective to note that there were only 19,400 Marines in 1940. (As the article states, there were 485,052 Marines when WWII ended.) And I seem to recall that there were only about 3,000 Marines in 1900, it had always been a small, elite force. And the Marine Corps hymn was set to a popular tune from the opera "Genevieve de Brabant" by Jacques Offenbach, the guy who wrote "Gaite Parisienne" with its Can-Can dancers. --Apparently after General Scott whupped Santa Anna at the Battle of Chapultepec and Mexico City in 1847, some unknown Marine in Mexico thought up the words to the first stanza and it took off from there. 64.169.155.134 (talk) 08:49, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Urinating on Corpses

Surely this video link should be included as part of the history of the US Marine Corps? <http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-16538159> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.70.237.182 (talk) 14:54, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Every instance of what each individual Marine did in the 236 year history of the Marine Corp, cannot and should not be added to the article. That would be absurd.--JOJ Hutton 14:59, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

JOJ, either include something about it in the main article or make a new article. Im sick of people trying to hide Marine rape and murder just because "thems is our boys."--Billwsu (talk) 21:56, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

I agree with JOJ...The fact that in it's 236 year history some Marines did something stupid makes for a foot-note in a 1000 page book but it's not justifed here. Frankly, this whole debate is boring. So, here's the simple truth, anyone who adds this trivia to article will be reverted. If you feels so strongly about your position that you're willing to lose your edit privileges and be permanently blocked, then make whatever changes that you feel nescessary....And, live with the consequences. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.22.156.40 (talk) 22:25, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Separate article on USMC War Crimes/Controversies?

After hearing about the recent incident where Marines urinated on dead Afghans, I think it would be appropriate to create a separate wiki article on war crimes and controversies done by the Marine Corps. There have been numerous notable incidents in the last 50 years alone. An article seems necessary in the same way you would make an article for a business or politicians that is continuously involved in scandal. I agree with others here that including the controversies on this page would be illogical because: 1. People would complain that other branches/militaries dont have a separate page. And 2. The list of incidents would take up too much space on the article page. How do we suggest a new Wiki page be created? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.210.222.2 (talk) 21:12, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Agreed: Marines' actions are not only predictable, but inevitable. Indeed, said actions have been common throughout Marine history and will remain common until the Corps reaches the point where they teach and enforce the standards they supposedly live by. No one should pretend Marine Corps depravity is uncommon in either war or peace time. There should be a Wiki article on the topic instead of continuing to try and hide the number of incidents. Marine malfeasance isnt some isolated aberration—it is, by the number of incidents, the inevitable outcome wherever marines are stationed. An article is both necessary and desired. --Palladia (talk) 21:37, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Said actions have been common throughout military history and the Marines are not particularly notable for it. We could have an article on the Imperial Japanese Army practice of cutting the penises off corpses and stuffing them into the corpses' mouths, or the Karen practice of collecting ears of slain foes, and so on. Or we could recall that Wikipedia already has a number of articles on war crimes, and think about putting this material there. --Yaush (talk) 01:29, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Isn't History of the United States Marine Corps the article the OP was asking for? Hcobb (talk) 01:34, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

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