Talk:Vladimir Lenin

Kolomna statue photo

Why is there a photo here of a Lenin statue that has birds on its head? Is it meant to make Lenin look ridiculous? I think it should be replaced (unless there are no photos without birds because birds sit on its head 24 hours a day) 24.57.9.7 (talk) 15:29, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Seriously, calm down. It's a statue; birds like to sit on statues. It's not like there's a picture of Lenin the man with a pigeon perched on his head. If it bothers you that much, you could go and take a nice birdless photo of the statue, then create an account and upload it here. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 17:20, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Lenin as Freemason

The FM will be delighted to have the Communist leader listed among their ranks:

* Several sources reveal that Lenin became a freemason whilst abroad in 1908. One of these sources is a thorough investigation: Nikolai Svitkov's "About Freemasonry in Russian Exile", published in Paris in 1932.

• According to the Austrian political scientist Karl Steinhauser's "EG - die Super-UdSSR von morgen" / "The European Union - the Super Soviet Union (USSR) of Tomorrow" (Vienna, 1992, p. 192), Lenin belonged to the Masonic lodge Art et Travail (Art and Labour).

• The famous British politician Winston Churchill also confirmed that Lenin and Trotsky belonged to the circle of the Masonic and Illuminist conspirators. (Illustrated Sunday Herald, 8 February 1920.)

• Lenin, Zinoviev, Radek and Sverdlov also belonged to B'nai B'rith. Researchers who are specialised in the activities of B'nai B'rith, including Schwartz-Bostunich, confirmed this information. (Viktor Ostretsov, "Freemasonry, Culture and Russian History", Moscow, 1999, pp. 582-583.)

• Lenin was a freemason of the 31st degree (Grand Inspecteur Inquisiteur Commandeur) and a member of the lodge Art et Travail in Switzerland and France. (Oleg Platonov, "Russia's Crown of Thorns: The Secret History of Freemasonry", Moscow, 2000, part II, p. 417.)

• When Lenin visited the headquarters of Grand Orient on rue Cadet in Paris, he signed the visitors' book. (Viktor Kuznetsov, "The Secret of the October Coup", St. Petersburg, 2001, p. 42.)

• Together with Trotsky, Lenin took part in the International Masonic Conference in Copenhagen in 1910. (Franz Weissin, "Der Weg zum Sozialismus" / "The Road to Socialism", Munich, 1930, p. 9.) The socialisation of Europe was on the agenda.

• Alexander Galpern, then secretary of the Masonic Supreme Council, confirmed in 1916 that there were Bolsheviks among the freemasons. I can further mention Nikolai Sukhanov (Himmer) and N. Sokolov. According to Galpern's testimony, the freemasons also gave Lenin financial aid to his revolutionary activity. This was certified by a known freemason, Grigori Aronson, in his article "Freemasons in Russian Politics", published in the Novoye Russkoye Slovo (New York, 8-12 October 1959). The historian Boris Nikolayevsky also mentioned this in his book "The Russian Freemasons and the Revolution" (Moscow, 1990).

207.119.116.76 (talk) 01:58, 11 October 2011 (UTC) I have trouble believing that Lenin was a freemason and the evidence above looks particularly partial or circumstantial, e.g. signing a visitor's book of Grand Orient. The evidence presented from a book about how the EU is the next USSR - a particular favourite of far-right conspiracy theories - seems hardly credible. There's nothing here from peer-reviewed journals; it's all random people publishing books and one press cutting which does not itself qualify as a reputable source. On the other hand, the idea that Lenin - a vehement atheist - was accepted by an order that requires belief in a deity, seems a bit unlikely. It seems a bit more likely that anti-Freemason and anti-Bolshevik prejudice might just be mixing here. EuroSoviets (talk) 15:41, 17 January 2012 (UTC)EuroSovietsEuroSoviets (talk) 15:41, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

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The introduction

It's been acknowledged that the introduction is too short, and I'm sure the issue has been discussed in the past, but I think it's a major problem that needs fixing, and can't just be ignored. The first thing that readers see is the introduction and it really doesn't summarise what is in the article at all.

I would fix it, but I don't even know wear to start in summarising the various topics in the article (the revolution, his leadership in general, his ideology etc.). And that, I guess, is why this issue has been left for so long.

Can a regular editor to this article hash out a slightly longer introduction than the one used currently? Thanks. Peter (talk) 19:32, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Lenin and the founding of the CPGB (Communist Party of Great Britain)

During his stay in London Lenin attended (chaired?) the inaugural meeting of the CPGB in the upstairs room of the Crown and Woolpack public house in St Johns St Islington. This is attested to by a blue plaque on the wall of what was the pub and is now a noodle bar (at least it was there last time I passed by). Is this worth a mention? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.179.56.134 (talk) 09:58, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

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