Talk:War of the Quadruple Alliance

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Austria

Certainly "Austria" in this article should not link to the small, present-day state of that name, but I'm not sure what it should link to. I'd be inclined to link to Holy Roman Empire, but I believe that some states of the Empire were not part of the Alliance. - Jmabel | Talk 19:58, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

"Spain fared poorly in the war"

First I would like to add that it is not mentioned in the article, that the Spanish Fleet was attacked by British ships wihtout the pertinent declaration of war being issued by the British Crown, betraying the traditional war code. Second I would like to point out that Spain defeated repeatedly the Austrian Army in Sicily, for example on the 15th of October 1718 in the Battle of Melazzo, on the 17th of June 1719 in the battle of Francavilla etc... The mistakes committed by the general Leide was not to pursue the retreating armies in any of the victories, but in my opinion, the performance of the Spanish Expeditionary Force cannot be considered poor. Moreover, I think it's partial and therefore suggest to change the paragraph containing the information cited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.217.143.198 (talk) 17:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Casualties.

Could someone explain how the allies managed to take over five times the casualties as the Spanish?

I think the reason for this could be the page was vandalized by Spanish nationalists, seeing as how Great Britain seemingly took 6,000 casualties even though they only fought the Spanish in two major battles and inflicted higher casualties on the Spanish in both... --156.34.20.12 (talk) 02:07, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/wars18c.htm#Quadruple - The entire war doesn't need to be defined by four major battles; consider how extensive the Spanish borders were even up until this point, and many border clashes are more than easily possible in these types of conflicts. Also consider that the allies fought for greater cause and had more than surperior numbers, and therefore could absorb such a hit. Look at the European Theatre of World War II, which could be defined by battles such as Stalingrad, Leningrad, Normandy, or the Battle of Britain. Regardless, the casualties of the war were defined mostly through continuous, slow-moving conflict, as it may have been here. All in all, with the way the Spaniards really may have faired in this war, I just couldn't call this a decisive victory for the allies. The Italian provinces were to Spain what Ladoga Karelia was to Finland when they fought the USSR, and this is the same result. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.84.113.129 (talk) 02:00, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

I'd agree the website isn't a reliable source, but it does cite a book as a reference point. Do you have any alternative figures? Lord Cornwallis (talk) 23:10, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Could partly be explained by armies and navies being far from their bases for extended periods (poor nutrition, unsanitary conditions, physical streess) suffering more from disease than those which are close to or at their bases. Disease could claim enormous tolls of sick and dead in those days. Another possibility is the Spanish figures only reflect those killed and wounded in battle but not from disease. Just a thought.