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==First Sentence seems odd==
"A school [...] is an institution designed to allow and encourage students (or "pupils") to learn, under the supervision of teachers."

Is there some way to re-phrase this so it sounds a little less "School is where you go to learn things"? I'm not sure how to re-phrase it myself, but I'm sure there's some way. The article on Cheese manages to not come across as stating the obvious. Perhaps something like the following.

"School [...] is an institution in which students (or "pupils") are educated in topics determined by the culture, or social group. In Private American school institutions this may be a Church, while mandatory Public American scholastic institutional topics are wholly determined by the state." <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.124.155.186|76.124.155.186]] ([[User talk:76.124.155.186|talk]]) 15:16, 17 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==School in Asia?==
Just wondering if we should have a subcategory for the meaning of school for Asian/Third World countries since we have the different school systems for Europe, North America, US, etc. I feel like this will eliminate the apparent/perceived Eurocentric bias that some articles might have. For example, for the Asian school system, we might mention the cultural history of how a traditional academy was perceived? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.234.135.238|69.234.135.238]] ([[User talk:69.234.135.238|talk]]) 18:56, 28 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Tiny edits by a random ==

Not a regular editor, but a couple of tiny things irked me, so I changed them. One was a typo, but the second adjusted content slightly. The bullying bit finishes on a very peculiar note, but before it rather implied that bullying led to suicide almost by default. I tidied up the wording, but I think the point could still be expressed better through a more detailed analysis. School was a word used by the latins to express how badly they felt at the time.

==UK terms ==
the term ''middle school'' is missing, age 7 or 8 to 11 or 12 (varies by region/county), which overlaps primary (junior) and secondary, often used in areas where there are lots of primary (infants) (age 4 or 5 to 11 or 12) schools;
also missing Key Stages - a method of classifying the attainment levels expected for particular age groups in a co-ordinated curiculum
[[User:Carollong|Carollong]] ([[User talk:Carollong|talk]]) 03:27, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

The definition of school is entirely opinionated. School definitely does NOT encourage learning <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/96.244.121.87|96.244.121.87]] ([[User talk:96.244.121.87|talk]]) 00:45, 10 December 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Links ==

:Correct - adding links is not vandalism. My bad. However, adding a link to the same site from multiple pages - http://rise.f2o.org - is considered [[linkspam]] and is against Wikipedia policy. Cheers. --[[User:PhilipO|PhilipO]] 18:46, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

== the hindi interwikilink given is wrong ==

correct link is [[hi:विद्यालय]] <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/{{{IP|{{{User|59.94.148.119}}}}}}|{{{IP|{{{User|59.94.148.119}}}}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{IP|{{{User|59.94.148.119}}}}}}|talk]]) {{{Time|{{{2|}}}}}}</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP -->

== first sentence ==

This is a technicality, but many educators would not agree with the implication that students learn ''from'' teachers. (Teachers don't just dispense information) I would change it to "A school is an institution where students (or "pupils") learn with the help of a teacher." but this sounds better: "A school is an institution where teachers help students (or "pupils") learn."
Does anyone agree this might be a more technically correct description of what happens at schools?

Yes I would agree that students no longer learn from teachers but I would phrase that by saying "A school is an institution where student learning is facilitated by teachers" or "A school is an institution where teachers facilitate students' learning". I don't teach English so feel free to correct any grammar. [[User:Sarahmc92|Sarahmc92]] ([[User talk:Sarahmc92|talk]]) 21:12, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

== Caption for picture ==

"A typical school entrance building in Australia" is a bad caption for the picture, for one its not a "typical" school entrance


I agree, i believe that a school should focus on the factors of life such as how to make friends, discuss about family,discuss about health, and the other subjects.

I believe teachers should teach because they love their priority as a teacher.

post plz

== NPOV -- Student stress in school ==

I deleted the following sentences from the sub-section 'Stress':

Not to mention the pressure on the students! In school, they are judged mercilessly based on sparse test grades, The dreaded Standardized Tests, and their peers.

These sentences are POV. Please refer to WP:NPOV. The stress on students is an important topic that should probably be included in this section. However, it should be written from a NPOV standpoint with references to studies linking stress and school or studies/experiments that prove stress exists. While we all know students do undergo stress in school, from an encyclopaedic point of view it needs to be backed up with verifiable references and sources to document that it indeed does exist. [[User:Josborne2382|Josborne2382]] 22:56, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Reguarding stress, the section only covers it from the teachers' point of view, which means it's not neutral. I moved the POV tag to that section and as a little girl i knew school was going to be boring for me because i was smarter then the avrege girl/3rd grader. --[[User:Pwnage8|Pwnage8]] ([[User talk:Pwnage8|talk]]) 22:19, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

:As far as the stress thing goes, I was gonna say the same thing. My first thought upon reading that subsection was, "EXCUSE ME? This is about how stressful it is for the ''teachers???'' ''THE TEACHERS???'' Omfg..." My first thought upon reading the "Discipline" subsection was, "Hey! This is only from the teachers' point of view! WHAT ABOUT THE STUDENTS??!! :'(" As a student who has had an extremely stressful semester, I found it very belittling to see not a single mention of how students might view this whole thing.</br>
:Another thought I had while adding this to the talk page was, "AT LEAST THE TEACHERS GET ''PAID!'' AND IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT, THEY CAN GET A NEW JOB! I DON'T HAVE A CHOICE! (And I've never received a paycheck for coming to school, have you?)" Obviously, no one should ever, ''EVER'', add that to the article. [[Special:Contributions/72.39.148.218|72.39.148.218]] ([[User talk:72.39.148.218|talk]]) 04:51, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


This omitted that 16 to 18 year olds typically go to colleges (studying "A" levels or other advanced level course for 2 years) after leaving school. Some secondary schools/ grammar schools offer a sixth form for 16 and 17 year olds allowing them to study "A" levels whilst remaining at school (instead of going to college). A typical route (among various other routes) could be Primary School (infant school and junior schools often on the same site), Secondary school (age 11 to 16), college (generally age 16 to 18), University (generally 18 years plus). Note that Universities are often made up of Schools (referring to subject areas) and sometimes colleges (which groups of students will belong to). <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.111.5.141|88.111.5.141]] ([[User talk:88.111.5.141|talk]]) 20:17, 31 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
HOLA MIS AMIGOS!!! XD <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/201.253.238.73|201.253.238.73]] ([[User talk:201.253.238.73|talk]]) 18:35, 8 September 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== School structure ==
Should the artice be reworked to shift it's focus towards the typical structure of the school and education process? I believe yes, because article that mentions cafeteria as a part of the school yet says almost nothing about the grades etc seems to be rather uninformative and even misleading [[User:ArchSaur|ArchSaur]] ([[User talk:ArchSaur|talk]]) 15:51, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

:Problem is determining what is typical. These questions should be covered in depth in articles about particular countries or kinds of schools, and only lightly referred to in this article, mainly for the purpose of linking. That also goes for cafeterias, incidentally, which get too much attention here. [[User:Jim.henderson|Jim.henderson]] ([[User talk:Jim.henderson|talk]]) 01:54, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

== Croatian interwiki ==

Please can administrators add Croatian interwiki. Thanks.--[[User:Vhorvat|Vhorvat]] ([[User talk:Vhorvat|talk]]) 04:22, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

[[hr:Škola]]
:{{done}} -- [[user:zzuuzz|zzuuzz]] <sup>[[user_talk:zzuuzz|(talk)]]</sup> 18:59, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

== Wrong aims... ==

Why does the article not mention about the schools in Singapore, blah blah blah.. all those nations that have hyper good education systems? I believe it is more important than just saying about some schools(types).
I came to the article to see how they think about the importance of a school. No school is typical though.
That American school entrance photo,it is wrong, very wrong. Please change the caption to something more unique please.Something like,

"<blockquote>
A school entrance in the city that never sleeps.
</blockquote>"

Please change this. This affects the entire article's meaning of truth.
== I am not established ==

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Please change the redirect to the original content{{unsigned|TehLickitung}}
:{{ESp|d}} Thank you.&mdash;[[User:C45207|C45207]] | [[User_talk:C45207|Talk]] 04:28, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
::You're very welcome, and I really thank the established user who changed the redirect to the original content! --[[User:TehLickitung|Lickitung comma Teh]] [[User talk:TehLickitung|(Speak)]] 03:46, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== stress ==

its true that both students and teachrs have to face stress during learning process but we can't take it in negative sense this stress force them to work hard 'to improve their abilities and much more without it students and even teachers will be lazy and theirefficiency will be affected <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/119.152.24.35|119.152.24.35]] ([[User talk:119.152.24.35|talk]]) 16:50, 19 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


all the sights are..... <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/198.237.227.137|198.237.227.137]] ([[User talk:198.237.227.137|talk]]) 20:37, 10 September 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== children born after Sept 1 ==

Are there any school that accept children born after Sept 1? If so which ones. What is the reason for the Sept 1 cut off date? Please advise. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.123.139.107|76.123.139.107]] ([[User talk:76.123.139.107|talk]]) 02:26, 18 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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