Talk:Ælfgifu, wife of Eadwig

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There seem to be at least two Elgivas:

One (d. 944) was the mother of Edwy of England (whose page lists both his mother and his wife for this name, each linking to this page.) and of Edgar of England; she was the wife of Edmund I of England, and had the title of Queen of England. She is also considered a saint.

The other was the wife of Edwy of England.

An alternate form of the name is Æthelgifu.

Not sure how to go about making a disambiguation page. --Magda 18:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

The Prosopography of Anglo-Saxon England lists 19 instances of the name St.Elgiva was Edwy's wife. His wife had the same name. Aethelgiva was his mother in law. Aelgifu or Elgiva was the name of Ethelred the Unready's first wife and his second wife Emma was also known as Aelgifu.Not to be confused with Aelgifu of Northampton whose father was murdered by Ethelred and became Cnut's concubine and mother of King Harald Harefoot. Aelgyfu also appears rather cryptically in the Bayeux Tapestry. She may have been the mistress of Swein Godwinsson.Confused? Not as much as the unfortunate King Edwy.Streona 00:32, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Elgiva and Chesham?[edit]

At some time around the Medieval or Tudor period there was a Lady Elgiva associated with Cestrham(?) or Chesham.

The Elgiva's were one of the major local familes as were the Lowndes's.

Much later the name Elgiva was used for the Chesham (Bucks,UK) theatre.

Not just two Elgivas[edit]

There may not just be two people by the name of Elgiva, but Elgiva is a short form of both Aelfgiva/Aelfgifu and Aethelgiva/Aethelgifu. Since the names would have been written down in their Latin form, it may be difficult to know which name Elgiva referred to. Thus, when you check your sourses, see if you only see one of Elgiva's names or both used to refer to the same person. 23:57, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Ælfgifu's ancestry[edit]

Barlow, Lundie W. "The Antecedents of Earl Godwine of Wessex" in New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 1957, proposes that Æthelfrith was the grandson of King Æthelred I through his son Æthelhelm, based on four estates belonging to ealdorman Æthelhelm of Wiltshire later being held by descendants of ealdorman Æthelfrith. This royal connection would go some way to explaining the enormous prestige enjoyed by Æthelfrith’s sons, but is problematical, because of the uncertain identification of ealdorman Æthelhelm with the son of King Æthelred, and because Æthelfrith begins attesting in 883, which suggest he would be too old. Barlow gets round the latter problem by proposing two ealdormen Æthelfrith, pointing to the long tenure if it is the same man signs until 915 and possibly continued as ealdorman as late as 930, the earliest attestation of his son Ælfstan in the same ealdormanry.

Barlow proposes ealdorman Eadric of Hampshire as Ælfgifu's father; by a process of elimination he is the most probable candidate under this hypothesis. His brother ealdorman Æthelwold's will indicates that he himself was childless, and a nephew, Ælfsige, who receives a bequest is presumably the son of Ælfstan, who had predeceased him.

Dates coherence[edit]

Queen until 958 or 959? (both dates are in the article) --Againme (talk) 15:21, 19 September 2011 (UTC)