Talk:Æthelwald Moll of Northumbria

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I'm doing the translation for the German wiki. I have the following problem: Bede died 735. How can he report of a rising that happened in 761? --Reinhold Stansich 15:36, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

He doesn't, the anonymous continuator does. The continuation of Bede's history (also known as the chronicle of 766) is a series of annals from 731, following on from Bede's Book V, Chapter 24, up to 766. Apparently some historians think Bede wrote a few of the early entries. What the continuator reports for 761 is "Oswine died", and one version of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle (E) says (761) "Moll, the Northumbrian king, killed Oswine at Edwin's Cliff on 6 August". Swanton, the editor, notes that Symeon says at "Eldunum" and comments "probably in the Eildon Hills". John of Worcester's chronicle (formerly attributed to Florence of Worcester) replaces "killed Oswine at" with "killed Oswine, a most noble ætheling, near". If you want an accessible reference, it is probably best to reference the Anglo-Chronicle Ms. E, s.a. 761 (here). There's slightly more detail in Symeon's Historia regum anglorum et dacorum (here on Google books, Stevenson's translation, here on the Internet Archive in Latin). There is no evidence outside Marsden's imagination that Oswine was Eadberht's son. Angus McLellan (Talk) 16:23, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. That helps me in translating the article. --Reinhold Stansich 19:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)