Talk:Émile Zola

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Zola dictionary[edit]

I've been integerating material from the public domain Zola dictionary, if anyone else want to lend a hand it's available from,

http://ibiblio.org/gutenberg/etext04/zladc10.txt

--Imran 22:13 Dec 7, 2002 (UTC)

I'd be wary of using Patterson as a source - the Zola Dictionary dates from 1912 (so it's not any more authoritative than the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica), and almost everything he says is out of date and/or contradicted by later Zola studies. In particular, he is writing from a prudish Edwardian English perspective - the Vizetelly translations that are still in print today, bowdlerised first by Henry and then re-censored and largely rewritten by Ernest, are not taken seriously by any student of literature except as quaint examples of Victorian censorship gone mad. The Lutetian Society versions are also very widely available, having been reprinted several times since Patterson was writing; these translations have also all been superseded, with the possible exception of La Curée. His description of the Vizetelly trial is a little inaccurate too; a good source of information concerning the trial, complete with excerpts from the judge and counsel in the case, is Graham King's Garden of Zola. Fosse8

Croat[edit]

Zola is listed in List of Croats. Why?

I'm not sure to be honest. See that talk page. --Shallot 12:40, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)

First English Translations[edit]

See the Wikipedia article on Henry Vizetelly the English Publisher, who was prosecuted for publishing The Earth (and Discussion Page).

Vernon White 15:40, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

broken link[edit]

I removed this link as it was broken. here it is if anyone wants to fiddle:

Felonati 18:26, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Bad link[edit]

The link titled "Travail" links to a stub on a musical group. Don't know how to fix it, but it's not right.

Paragraphing[edit]

This is my pet bugbear, but the paragraphing in the biography section needs work, preferably by the editors who've written the existing material and therefore are most comfortable with the section. At the moment, they're all one sentence paras, even when there's an obvious thematic thread (i.e. Dreyfus etc), and this makes things confusing. Sound reasonable? Ajcounter 15:41, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

pronunciation[edit]

How do you pronounce Emile? Is it "EH-MEEL"? Or "Emily"? Is "Emily" a mispronunciation of the French, but an acceptable Americanized pronunciation?

It's "Ay-meel". "Emily" is flat wrong no matter what country you're in. 84.92.8.221 14:43, 19 July 2007 (UTC) (fosse8)

Accent on name[edit]

Normal correct French usage is not to put an accent on capitals, so I propose moving the article to Emile Zola. Ty 01:22, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Really? Why does French Wikipedia also use the accent mark? --D. Monack | talk 01:29, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
It is a matter of some debate, and certainly you can find texts that don't put accents on capitals. But it's hard to get more authoritative than the Académie française, which does recommend the accentuation of all capitals: [1]. Lesgles (talk) 01:37, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Fair enough. Ty 01:40, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Common French from France usage omits accents from capitals, for reasons of presentation, and because you know it's there. If you capitalize an ordinary vocabulary word with an accent, you often omit the accent. But you know it's there.
Normal Canadian French usage tends to include the accent, to stress, Hey, we are using French here, people! not English (dammit)!!
Regardless of how it is presented for the sake of convenience or aesthetics, the accent is still there.
Varlaam (talk) 16:23, 29 May 2012 (UTC) (Canada)

List of Works[edit]

I know that lists are 'bad', but its essential to at least provide a list of his major works, many of which have no mention at all in the present article. Caspar esq. (talk) 20:05, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Please Translate Titles[edit]

I do not speak French so there is no way for me to recognize any of Émile Zola's famous works. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.92.16.249 (talk) 20:00, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

durance[edit]

Is a Émile Zola came to the prison in practice?

The article says that he escaped to England. And write here (1898) that he entered the jail. Who is right?

Note: This message translation from Hebrew by Google translation

--ישראל קרול (talk) 15:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Get rid of "Extent of Zola’s achievement" or change it[edit]

This section is clearly subjectively written, without citations. Wikipedia is not the place for editorializing or independent literary criticism. I actually find what you've written interesting, but this just isn't the forum for it. Ironically, maybe you could simply post what you wrote to a blog and then cite to that ;). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.20.227.156 (talk) 06:49, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Zola's Naïs Micoulin[edit]

This work becomes an opera by Alfred Bruneau and a film starring Fernandel.
But it is not listed.
I presume, therefore, that it is a conte.

I am not familiar with Zola's work in detail.
Are a number of his "tales" of major consequence? Should the article be noting these by name? If they don't justify independent articles, should these tales be discussed in some detail here?
Varlaam (talk) 16:29, 29 May 2012 (UTC)