Talk:1000 percent

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Merger proposal[edit]

I am proposing that ‎1000 percent be merged into this article. Narthring (talkcontribs) 03:18, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

the term has taken on a life of its own and deserves a separate article rather than a mere link to an episode 40 years ago that makes it look obsolete. Rjensen (talk) 03:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
The 1000 percent article asserts that it has become a byword, but presents no sources or evidence to back this up. This web search for "1000 percent" doesn't find any use of this byword in the first five pages of hits. Wasted Time R (talk) 10:36, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Safire makes the point in Safire's New Political Dictionary (1993) pp 796-7Rjensen (talk) 10:42, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
That's a start, but it could still use some more, such as some specific examples in the years since where the phrase has been used. See for example what the Read my lips: no new taxes and Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy articles do. Wasted Time R (talk) 11:17, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Safire is definitive. The term turns up all over the place: 1) "Aren't Manhattan Portage bags completely indestructible and one thousand percent waterproof, ready to whisk a messenger's precious booty to the ends of the earth?" asks Lynn Yaeger, "Totemic Totes," The Village Voice Volume: 44. Issue: 7. February 23, 1999. p. 12. 2) Treasures of War by Don Stewart Nimmons - 2003 - Page 425; 3) Jake Page, "Myths, Legends, and Folktales of America: An Anthology' (Oxford University Press. 1999) p 200; 4) Melissa Checker and Maggie Fishman, Local Actions: Cultural Activism, Power, and Public Life in America (Columbia University Press, 2004) p. 172. 5) Mikel Holt, Not Yet Free at Last: The Unfinished Business of the Civil Rights MovementOur Battle for School Choice (ICS Press, 2000) p, 55. Rjensen (talk) 11:42, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
There are a lot of uses of "one thousand percent" that predate and have nothing to do with the McGovern episode – it's a general expression denoting beyond-the-bounds effort or commitment, similar to the sports cliché "he gave 110 percent on the field". That's why McGovern said it in the first place. The Village Voice one here does not, as I read it, carry any McGovern connotation. Spotchecking another of your examples, this one, that usage doesn't seem to have anything to do with the McGovern sense either. Wasted Time R (talk) 00:19, 28 October 2010 (UTC)