Talk:1925 serum run to Nome

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Name[edit]

I've never seen it referred to as just the "Mercy Race to Nome" (which gets 43 Google hits). It's either the "Great Race of Mercy to Nome" (872 hits), or the "1925 serum run" (843; "1925" and "serum run" gets 3,560). Either would be a better title :) 68.81.231.127 20:08, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Oh, the section on Togo should probably go back. It's very specific to Togo, and I intended it to eventually become a summary of this article, whenever it got created :). 68.81.231.127 20:18, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Huh, when I did a search for--um, whatever I searched for--I think Balto and Nome and diphtheria or something--I kept seeing the Mercy Race to Nome, so that's what I called it. I don't know that it matters too much as long as we've got something to call it other than just having every reference to it here in Wikipedia (not too many yet, but they're out there) all linking to Iditarod instead. If it were me-- "1925 serum run" is too vague and I don't know that I'd recognize it if I saw it (and I've been at least vaguely familiar with the story most of my life for unknown reasons); the longer version just seems, I dunno, long. But, as I said, I'm not emotionally attached to any one. As for Togo-specific section, OK, it can go back; I had more envisioned that this article would be fleshed out in detail so that the Togo section wouldn't stand out so blatantly as being so detailed. Again, though, I'm easy. :-) I just barged in here & started shuffling stuff around because I wanted to have a page to link to. Elf | Talk 22:46, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

any one who reads this page or wrote it is a major dummy like so wrong half of this stuff is I've been using "1925 serum run" in the wording of most of the articles that I eventually planned to link here (I like short titles :), but I think anything that makes an easy link would work and the "Mercy" variants are certainly more memorable. "Great Race of Mercy", maybe? 68.81.231.127 23:04, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I think that having "Nome" in the title would be particularly helpful. Beyond that--I'm dumping it back in your lap because you're doing a wonderful job on this article. Looks great. Elf | Talk 01:02, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. I've summarized it enough times in other articles that it's easy enough to expand. I was thinking about whether Nome should be added to title as well. Hmm. It's a hard one. There is no official name, and the number of permutations gets silly. Though if Nome is included, it boils down to either "1925 serum run to Nome" or "Great Race of Mercy to Nome." Either works. And anyway, it can't be up to me. I can't move articles :p Oh, I think I confused things earlier. I meant the parts on Togo should be added back to the article on the dog. Even if there is a separate article on the serum, there still needs to be a summary (though it could use an edit). 68.81.231.127 01:24, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Well, I can move articles. OK, um, er, I vote for "1925 serum run to Nome". Shall I do it, then? BTW, yes, I meant moving the text back to Togo would be OK if you wanted to. Elf | Talk 01:49, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Whichever you like. :) 68.81.231.127 02:30, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Also, this sentence could use some minor punctuation work: "The sled dog was the primary means of transportation and communication in subarctic communities around the world, and the race became both the last great hurrah and the most famous event in the history of mushing, before the first aircraft in the 1930s and then the snowmobile in the 1960s drove the dog sled almost into extinction." Maybe split it into two sentences? It's close to being a run-on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.196.143.94 (talk) 15:41, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Bravo[edit]

This is a great article. Good work to all involved. jengod 18:33, August 2, 2005 (UTC)


I second that sentiment! Terrific article.

I noticed a probable misspelling of Wrong Font Thompson's name -- it appears to be "Fentress." And speaking of which, the man sounds like he should have his own wiki article. Here's a link with information on him.

http://www.buy.com/prod/fighting-for-the-forty-ninth/q/loc/106/211310304.html

I'd do it myself but am concerned about copyright issues and so forth, not to mention never having created a wiki link before.

Regardless, if anybody else concludes that his name is misspelled, kindly edit it.

IvyGold (talk) 23:55, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

1975 and President Reagan??[edit]

I don't understand. The article says there was a reenactment run in 1975, and in the same paragraph, mentions President Ronald Reagan. Reagan didn't become president until 1981. In 1975, the president was Gerald Ford.

GBC 01:15, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Reread the paragraph. It's OK. Elf | Talk 02:48, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Second Relay[edit]

I agree, a fine article. However: "Contacted Thompson and Sutherland, and Darlington made a..." Could we please have a complete sentence here? A subject, perhaps? J S Ayer 05:27, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Donald Duck and the serum race[edit]

I was introduced to this race through a Carl Barks version with a cold-war twist. Read it a long time ago. Anyone remember that story? A reference in the article would be great. Thanks! Jørgen 21:46, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

We'd probably want to come up with more notable references to the race, of which there are undoubtedly many, before including only a donald duck cartoon for "References in fiction" or some such heading. Elf | Talk 19:13, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
If you think you might have references to fiction in this article you could include the Balto movie. Just a thought.--Shishigashira 20:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Alameda [edit]

Why is this not listed on the Alameda page??

Thank You,

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I'm a bit confused. Is there a reason for it to be on the Alameda page? Coaster1983 05:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

It's highly unlikely that the victims and the mushers Victor Anagick and Myles Gonangnan were "Inuit", as the Inuit live in Canada and Greenland. They were more likely to be Inupiat (with Yupik or Athabascan also a possibility). "Eskimo" is a perfectly acceptable term for both Inupiat and Yupik within Alaska, but if you're going to be ultra-PC (by Canadian standards) and avoid the term Eskimo, at least have a care to use the right name. It's like calling an Italian a Spaniard because they both speak Romance languages (and, of course, Athabascans are a completely unrelated group). Changed "Inuit" to Alaska Native throughout the article. If someone does the research and learns the actual ethnicity of these people, please put it in, but "Inuit" is almost certainly wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.134.235.169 (talk) 21:03, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

It's even more complex than that: natives of Greenland (the same ethnic group as other Arctic Natives) prefer to be called Greenlanders! As noted above, Inuit is NOT a generic term for all northern native peoples, even those of related ethnic groups (probably descendants of the Thule people). Unfortunately, as also noted above, it has become PC in Canada to refer to Arctic natives as Inuit. In fact, I am given to understand by ethnographers that Eskimo is more widely acceptable despite it being regarded as a pejorative term in parts of Canada.--APRCooper (talk) 18:40, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

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An IP removed the background section on the epidemic in November, without explanation [1]. I have restored it. If there are issues with the section, please discuss here. Buddy431 (talk) 18:58, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Dragons[edit]

"Henry Ivanoff's team ran into a Dragon and got tangled up just outside of Shaktoolik. Seppala still believed he had more than 100 miles (160 km) to go and was racing to get off the Norton Sound before the storm hit. " I'm a bit confused by what Dragon means, as the link directs me to the mythical creature of dragons. Dhua315 (talk) 04:35, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Fox[edit]

  • A BBC4 television program (Sunday 15 June 2014, 9.45 to 10.45 pm by British time) said that Balto's reported achievements as lead dog were actually done by a dog named Fox, but that the newspaper report changed the name in case readers misunderstood the name and thought that the animal was not a dog but a fox (Vulpes sp.). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:50, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes, he was the less able dog, it seems. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:04, 7 January 2015 (UTC)