Talk:1939 New York World's Fair

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The Wikisource link doesn't point toward anything.--Pharos 22:59, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Edward Bernays[edit]

The "father of public relations", Edward Bernays played a large role in the planning of the 1939 World's Fair. He was employed by many corporations and the idea was to present a view of the future of America as being a consumerist democracy. This is mentioned in part four of the documentary series, The Century of the Self entitled, "Eight People Sipping Wine in Kettering" and Bernays' role in shaping modern politics and marketing is the focus of earlier programmes. Proof Reader (talk) 01:08, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

emblem photo, perhaps?[edit]

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http://www.airportjournals.com/Photos/0507/X/0507020_1.jpg was linked into an X-Files article recently, but if there's something like it available under fair use/free use, it'd be better off here. -- nae'blis (talk) 16:50, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

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PD (!) photos added[edit]

Lots of truly PD photos available from Library of Congress. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Caltrop (talkcontribs) .

Gelernter POV comment replaced[edit]

I think this comment is overly POV and have replaced it with a NPOV characterization.

1939: The Lost World of the Fair by David Gelernter is a sui generis blend of essay and fiction. It is a politically conservative tract which yearns for the days when authorities had authority and Robert Moses knew best. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Caltrop (talkcontribs) .

More Facts, Less Praise[edit]

Statements such as "At night, with the latest in lighting technology switched on, the effect was magical." is POV, and has no place in the article. Please clean the article and present a neutral POV.

The quoted statement was probably from some pavillion marketing brochure from the Fair, or possibly from Fair marketing materials themselves. However, it also would have been a pretty typcial statement by a visitor of the time. As such, it is a neutral point of view of the time. The fact that current readers and TV watchers can not imagine a time where people had attitudes that differ from their own current attitudes does not mean that such times did not exist. Reading the literature of the day with a sufficiently open mind to believe that even a little of it was written truthfully, or talking to any of the few remaining people that were alive then should make it a bit more obvious that people had rather different ideas back then.Loren.wilton (talk) 21:06, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm not entirely satisfied with the result here- it's kind of ghetto- an unattributed quote was very slightly rephrased into a description given as the point of view of "many people." Unfortunately, the quote can't be found on Google or google books (except where derived from this page), so we can't correctly attribute it. Perhaps the thing to do is rewrite this objectively, saying something like "The high tech lighting was an impressive spectacle." Or if somebody has that book by Dietrich Neumann on architectural lighting, maybe we could make some comparisons. I'll wait for comments before I do it.Fixifex (talk) 18:19, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Influence on later literature and...[edit]

wasn't the Towers also shown and part of the Story in the Film Men in Black also? -- Hartmann Schedel (talk) 13:00, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

ok, maybe not if nobody seems to be interested -- Hartmann Schedel Prost 18:14, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
is there a special reason why the hint "Man in Black" is totally ignored now since 2 years? Even if I'm wrong (which could be possible) than someone may is so polite telling me this? thanks in advice -- Hartmann Schedel cheers 21:24, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
I think you mean the observation towers from the latter 1964 New York World's Fair. 75.41.110.200 (talk) 01:04, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Bovine Mistake?[edit]

The article states, 'One poster from that year's fair, issued by Borden's Milk had Elmer the Cow proclaiming "makes you proud to be an American".' I think the appropriate bovine is Elsie, not Elmer. Elmer is not a cow, but is in fact a bull, the "husband" of Elsie. Also, I don't think Elmer existed as a character until after the fair. Can someone say for sure? Please see: Elmer's web site: [1]. Waynersampson69 (talk) 07:05, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Updates[edit]

I am reading the 2010 novel Twilight At The World of Tomorrow by James Mauro which is providing a very informative account of the events of the 1939 world's fair. If anyone has the book etc. and we can incorporate the information in here someone it would be appreciated.--Cooly123 00:55, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

The Photos in this novel would be great to add to (they are reputable too many are from the New York City Public Library). --Cooly123 17:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Archives at New York Public Library[edit]

I have added a new section describing the official archives of the 1939 New York World's Fair at the New York Public Library. They now have made a wealth of material available online, including additional new illustrated commentaries written by 21st century writers. Some of this material is ideal for providing high-quality references for the Wikipedia article. Reify-tech (talk) 02:34, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Reify-tech Thanks for sharing this. I especially liked New York World's Fair 1939 and 1940 Incorporated Records for its listing consumer issues. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:13, 31 October 2014 (UTC)