Talk:1948 Palestine war

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Suggestion for title change to Israeli War of Independence[edit]

This is how it is called in Israel, as well as in American history textbooks. I've never known the war by any other name. --Daviddwd (talk) 06:57, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

If you check in all History textbooks, you will see that, it is named:
  • "Israeli War of Independence" in the Israeli people culture
  • "Nakba" in the Palestinian people culture
  • "1948 Palestine War" by Israeli, Palestinian and other historians.
There are a few exceptions and some historians according to their sensitivity make sometimes reference to the "people culture" name.
The references are in the articles. You can check this. Note that Gelber and Tal are Israeli historians (and even not New Historians). Karsh is also Israeli and quite controversial for his pro-Israeli bias. Pluto2012 (talk) 16:42, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Nakba, not Naqba[edit]

An editor recently went through the article, changing the transliteration of Nakba to Naqba. I have reverted this. Not only is Nakba the much more common term (eg 578,000 Google hits, compared to 91,000 for Naqba), and already the term used in other Wikipedia articles; it is also the correct transliteration of the Arabic نكبة, while Naqba is incorrect.This solecism has been noted by several writers and articles.[1][2][3][4] Naqba is the transliteration of a different word, نقبة , meaning a woman who wears a veil (niqab). RolandR (talk) 17:27, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Reversion of Jewish exodus edit[edit]

My edit concerning the Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries was reverted by Zero0000, with the stated reason being that "This article is about the 1948 war, not the years afterwards." However, these numbers started growing after the Partion Plan, not incidentally but as a matter of a causal relationship.[1] This is a very important event in this context, partly because it nearly doubled the population of the new state. The lead section says, "Around 700,000 Palestinian Arabs fled or were expelled from the area;" did all of them flee or were expelled in the year 1948? EIN (talk) 00:38, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Most left in 1948, most of the rest in 1949. With few exceptions, it was during the war that this article is about or during the Arab-Israel war (some editors like making this distinction). Almost all of the Jews who left Arab countries did so in the years following the end of the Arab-Israeli war (eg. Iraqi jews in 1951). All these events have historical connections, but it is wrong to make it sound like a simultaneous population exchange. It wasn't simultaneous and it wasn't even particularly similar. Zerotalk 01:04, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Fully agree with Zero. The only singular "direct causality" for the Jewish exodus was Ben-Gurion's One Million Plan. The other direct factors were region specific - Suez in Egypt, civil war and economic hardship in Yemen, decolonisation of the Maghreb and the exodus of the Pieds Noir, etc etc. I apologise if this is hard, but the suggestion of a direct connection between the 1948 war and the Jewish exodus is borne either from ignorance or naivety to propaganda. Oncenawhile (talk) 09:26, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
    • ^ "Ad Hoc Committee on Palestine – 30th Meeting", United Nations Press Release GA/PAL/84. November 24, 1947. Quotation from Egyptian delegate: "The lives of one million Jews in Muslim countries would be jeopardized by partition".