Talk:1950s in music
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Article seems too rock centric
I was writing a summary of music of the 50's for a private project, unrelated to Wikipedia, and came here for some help. Surprised at all the typos (e.g., "pioneers of Rock and roll music") and stuff like this: "Blues had a huge influence on mainstream American popular music in the 1950s with the enthusiastic playing styles of popular musicians like Bo Diddley and Chuck Berry, departed from the melancholy aspects of blues and influenced Rock and roll music." Makes no sense to me.
Particularly dismayed at the rock-centric viewpoint of the article. The roll n roll artists did not start dominating the charts until the 2nd half of the decade, but the article dismisses everybody else. ("Rock and roll entered the mainstream and became a major force in American record sales. Crooners such as Eddie Fisher, Perry Como, and Patti Page, who had dominated the previous decade of popular music, found their access to the pop charts significantly curtailed.") That simply is not factually true. All of those artists had their biggest successes in the 50's, both in terms of chart position and the number of hits on the charts. With the decline of the big bands, individual singers became the big stars, and music began to showcase their vocal talents instead of the band arrangements. The 50's was the golden era of the vocalist and their genre (which we now call easy listening). The article seems to think that music in the 50's was a zero sum game, where only one genre was the main focus. That was not the way it was. It was a decade of co-existence and cross-pollination of musical styles like no other.
The 50's saw the end of decades of dominance by jazz based music, which left a void that was filled by all of these other genres almost all at once. It is hard now for people to understand what a music free for all there was back then. Everything was being played on the radio. It was all new. I know it is hard to imagine that easy listening was new at one time, but it was -- it was a radical departure from swing. All of these forms were cross pollinating like crazy, instantly. Nobody was looking back, it was all cutting edge. We were open to new musical ideas then and it was in that atmosphere of experimentation and novelty that rockabilly, rock and roll, doo-wop etc were able to achieve recognition. We think of the 50's as the most staid decade, but in reality it was probably the most innovative musically in terms of sheer quantity of change (not necessarily quality). The article focuses almost exclusively on the emergence of rock n roll and overlooks the incredible musical melting pot that was the 50s.Jim C. (talk) 23:57, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
I was surprised to find no commentary in this section on the prevalence of orchestral (without vocals) music during the early half of the decade. Big orchestras - Montivani, Nelson Riddle, Jackie Gleason, et. al. - comprised a major segment of radio play at that time and are now preserved in 'Golden Oldies' CD collections.
Given the fact that many of the non-vocal cuts made the top ten during this period, shouldn't there be some mention in the writeup of the impact (or lack thereof) of this genre ? And shouldn't it have a name, like Big Orchestral Music? 18.104.22.168 (talk) 13:12, 24 July 2014 (UTC) Ed Collins West Newton, PA email@example.com 22.214.171.124 (talk) 13:12, 24 July 2014 (UTC)