Talk:1999 Bridge Creek–Moore tornado

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September 6, 2013Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on February 22, 2011.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the 1999 Bridge Creek – Moore tornado, ranked F5 on the Fujita scale, was the costliest tornado in United States history?
On this day...Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on May 3, 2018, May 3, 2019, and May 3, 2022.

Improvements[edit]

The only major improvements I can see this needing are some expansion of content (possibly along the lines of this and this), expansion of the lead section, possibly creating subsections by county in the synopsis and impact sections, and more in depth impact information on impact (especially relating to Oklahoma County). Other than those issues, the article appears exceptional. I would say if it is C class at the moment, it is extremely close to B-class. Ks0stm (TCG) 17:40, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As with almost all these weather articles, the writing style is absolutely awful, on the level of an untalented high school student. I'm not sure why, but the weather seems to bring out writers with no skill at exposition and a penchant for strained grammar and hyperbolic language. This article is a confusing disaster considering the importance of the event. Antimatter33 (talk) 02:54, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Tornado Name[edit]

I understand that some of the worst damage may have been recorded in Moore, but why is Oklahoma City left out of the title? According to the National Weather Service, there were fatalities in Bridge Creek(12), Oklahoma City(9), Del City(6), Moore(5), Midwest City(3), and Newcastle(1). That puts Moore at only fourth out of six cities in terms of fatalities. I don't understand why so many people seem to make the assumption that everyone who died from this tornado was in Moore and Bridge Creek, when Moore only contained five of the fatalities. Why is Oklahoma City completely left out of this? It seems that whoever was naming this tornado's article was only going by known damage, and ignored the fatalities altogether. Even Del City, who most people do not here as much about when they talk about this tornado, had more fatalities than Moore. I am not saying that Moore should have to be removed from the title, just that Oklahoma City might possibly be referenced. Moore was an impressive location in terms of damage, but not quite so much in terms of fatalities. I would suggest a reference to Oklahoma City, due to the fact that it appears to have had the second most fatalities in from this deadly tornado. 72.198.89.119 (talk) 19:03, 7 July 2013 (UTC) MySuggestions[reply]

Most of the time there isn't a good consensus from official sources on what to name a tornado. In this case, since it was an F5, the Storm Prediction Center has a listing that we can use to provide a name. There, it's listed as Bridge Creek/Moore, so those are the areas used for the name. I believe the naming would stem from where the tornado reached F5 status rather than where the fatalities took place. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 21:08, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, what part of the National Weather Service rates tornadoes? Other branches of the NWS refer to it OKC inclusive. This method of naming makes little sense to me; there ought to be a more inclusive name for this tornado. Everyone seems to refer to it as the 1999 Moore tornado, when in all actuality, Moore was only significant in terms of damage; the 301+-20 mph weren't even recorded there. There were other areas that had more significant impacts. I could have almost sworn that at some point, I read an article that was named by metro area due to the impacted area being too expansive. A tornado doesn't need to be F5/EF5 strength to be significant, so another question of mine is, how do you name non-EF5 tornadoes on Wikipedia? Sorry to bother you, I don't want it to seem like I am arguing or anything. Dustin talk 15:04, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Debris[edit]

It first says that

  "The Bridge Creek−Moore tornado produced an estimated 220 cubic yards (170 m3) of debris from the buildings that were destroyed in the storm.[27][28]" 

which seems like a oddly small amount of debris for several thousand destroyed home, especially since building materials, like lumber, tend to take up a lot of volume in a landfill. Then later it says

  "According to the Army Corps of Engineers, roughly 500,000 cubic yards (382,277 cubic meters) of debris was left behind and would likely take weeks to clear.[38]"

The difference between 220 and 500,000 is huge; obviously not all of the 500,000 cubic yards is debris from buildings, but it should be a larger proportion than 220 cubic yards. Worse, a bit later it goes on to say

  "By this date, the Army Corps of Engineers reported that 964,170 cubic yards (737,160 cubic meters), roughly 58%, of the 1.65 million cubic yards (1.26 million cubic meters) of debris had been removed.[46]" 

Now we're up to 1,650,000 cubic yards of debris as opposed to 220 cubic yards. Obviously these can't all be correct. AnnaGoFast (talk) 02:44, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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